Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword

[Coffeeditto]

Again, I don't want Cecilia to go about killing heaps of people. Do we have a consensus here? I'm going as far as wanting Emma to call Cecilia out D3 if dawn gets killed N1/N2.

I don't see how especially the second post did not make you second guess your plan. t.t

I did second guess it, but I thought that I was taking the best course of action in the end. If I hit a mafia, that’s a mafia dead. If I hit a town, I figured he wasn’t an important role and knew that I would get scumread for it, and I accepted that fact. I’m not backing down from believing that there is some justification behind this move. I’m not just going to be like “sorry sorry sorry” and ask for forgiveness.

I agree with the 'little backing' that is why I brought it up repeatedly. I was a bit annoyed especially at the start of day. Kae's post made me change my perspective a bit but in the end I stand somewhat disappointed.

Then we agree that there wasn’t enough heavy agreement on to use or not to use my ability?

I don't see the burden of proof on his end. He was a random player who did pick up his activity. If you go about vigging people as town you better have a good reason. This is a massive point.

I’ve already stated my reasoning. He may have picked up his activity, but more posts with less content doesn’t mean he’s any townier. This is the same reason I scumread DC.

'Him staying alive could block a role' versus Cecilia doing her thing outright kills people. How do you think this is supposed to look from the outside? This is a serious question that hopefully gets you reevaluating your judgement. I, for one, am disappointed in the use of your role in general and killing dawn in particular.

I could either hit a mafia, or I could leave him alive and risk him roleblocking our doc or vig killing an investigative role. From my perspective, it made sense for me to hit him because based off of his lack of a claim he was not a role we would have missed and I know I am most likely not going to hit something we need. He could either vig hit me knowing I was on him (and that’s only a loss of a town vig that reveals info about dawn) or he could one of the investigatives.

“I'd like to say I learned from the best (Rob).”

I am not sure how seriously I should take this. If I did I'd respond along the lines of: He himself pointed out the vast differences.
Otherwise, you're just adding insult to injury. You don't even seem to show some doubt nor hindsight.
Again, obviously I regret hitting town, but I can’t back down from this or take it back. The rob thing is in reference to last game. I am wondering how the town would have reacted if dawn was maf? the fact that I misvigged is the biggest scum read on me here, yes? And that I didn’t claim earlier? When the pressure is maf if you do, maf if you don’t, I would rather claim late today than be found later and auto lynched. If I was maf, i could have hidden and hoped that emma died tonight.[/quote]

[worldwideweb3]

@Coffee, your vote is on DC because although he posts, you dont find the content to be useful. You killed dawn because of lack of posts. Yet i dont see you talk about Cal much? unless you did and i forgot about it?

[worldwideweb3]

Also, yh idk what happened to sub. He hasnt logged in, in 4 days

[Coffeeditto]

@Coffee, your vote is on DC because although he posts, you dont find the content to be useful. You killed dawn because of lack of posts. Yet i dont see you talk about Cal much? unless you did and i forgot about it?

I don’t because it’s universally agreed upon according to cal’s 2nd post that he does this, or so I assumed. I also thought the 3rd maf would be someone in the more townread or talkative category, so my thoughts were either ian (not falling into that category and instead just being my scumread) or kaempfer/rob/moe in that order of towniness. I don’t currently scum read any of those three, though.

But Cal and I are a team, you’re right.

[rob77dp]

iancudorinmarian (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, andretimpa, killsdazombies
DoubleCapitals (2) - rob77dp, Coffeeditto
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
worldwideweb3 (2) - iancudorinmarian, Naii_the_Baf
Naii_the_Baf (1) - PlayerOa
killsdazombies (1) - worldwideweb3
MasterWalks (3) - Calindu, DoubleCapitals, moehrpi
Submachine(1) kaempfer13

I think this is the correct vote count.

\this voting pattern always lynches a scum\

www3 - I don't think kdz is in the table today...
kae- same for Sub.
MW- fine one of the more major trains\wagons\targets? (WIFOM coming from me but meh)
Oa- push harder for naii or find a better wagon?

--> some consolation really needs to start getting traction here folks.

[rob77dp]

And for the record, I am completely disinterested in lynching mafia Cecilia today. Rather, I would prefer above else to find their most likely accomplices in the hopes that Emma Planck can track Cecilia themselves down next night. So the vote on ian is not because I still find him the primary Cecilia suspect. Similarly, MW not being Cecilia is not a reason not to lynch vote him.

Oh, and then Coffee posts, making most of my points above moot. I would have preferred to see this post earlier, but at least we can stop witch hunting.

forgetting which team you're on or supposed to be on TorB??

[worldwideweb3]

@ian @Naii

Lynching me is pointless as i am town. Go vote for your next scumread as thats more helpful.

[worldwideweb3]

And for the record, I am completely disinterested in lynching mafia Cecilia today. Rather, I would prefer above else to find their most likely accomplices in the hopes that Emma Planck can track Cecilia themselves down next night. So the vote on ian is not because I still find him the primary Cecilia suspect. Similarly, MW not being Cecilia is not a reason not to lynch vote him.

Oh, and then Coffee posts, making most of my points above moot. I would have preferred to see this post earlier, but at least we can stop witch hunting.

forgetting which team you're on or supposed to be on TorB??

Nah i think torb means we can lynch a maf cecilia tomorrow too, it doesnt make a difference.

[Coffeeditto]

@ian @Naii

Lynching me is pointless as i am town. Go vote for your next scumread as thats more helpful.

What is this line? what do you mean you're town

is this from your point of view or did we mechanically confirm you and I missed it

[rob77dp]

@ian @Naii

Lynching me is pointless as i am town. Go vote for your next scumread as thats more helpful.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

And for the record, I am completely disinterested in lynching mafia Cecilia today. Rather, I would prefer above else to find their most likely accomplices in the hopes that Emma Planck can track Cecilia themselves down next night. So the vote on ian is not because I still find him the primary Cecilia suspect. Similarly, MW not being Cecilia is not a reason not to lynch vote him.

Oh, and then Coffee posts, making most of my points above moot. I would have preferred to see this post earlier, but at least we can stop witch hunting.

forgetting which team you're on or supposed to be on TorB??

Nah i think torb means we can lynch a maf cecilia tomorrow too, it doesnt make a difference.

Right, what w3 said. If Cecilia were mafia, they'd be the least interesting of the 3 to lynch, since they could be tracked down by Emma. Same for any other mafia we know the role of, unless that role was Emma.

[worldwideweb3]

@ian @Naii

Lynching me is pointless as i am town. Go vote for your next scumread as thats more helpful.

What is this line? what do you mean you're town

is this from your point of view or did we mechanically confirm you and I missed it

Fromy my point of view  its a vote wasted