Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword

[rob77dp]

Also coffee's take of DC's retort to Link's 'reply' to DC's questioning of Link's vote is somewhat on-track with my own. That is, weird way that DC responded to Link. Coffee I think finds the interaction weird (both sides?) though whereas I think that's just Link being Link but DC response is awkward on its own.

Whys DCs response awkward?

DC usually doesn't care too much about various breadposting going on, he picked out this one from Link to ask for a reason on the vote - fair, we often around here ask that - but then Link gives him sass and DC just then decides he doesn't like the general "hate" (votes and shade?) he is getting and is suddenly not interested further in a real reason from Link for the vote. I mean, DC asked in the first place so I presume he had a reason (odd he doesn't push to get one from Link?) or he was just chatting (odd how he still keeps it game-related to votes/pressure he's getting).

www3 - why do you ask?

[TheonlyrealBeef]

dawn claimed he was hit once by the 2hit vig, so he is probably dead, but i townread him outing the vig hit. can't rule out the possibility he was lying about it to not get lynched, though.

If this is the case, I would like to see a counter-claim from Cecilia. I figured this was implied, but a counter-claim pretty much either proves dawn or the counter-claimer as scum. dawn can out the identity of Cecilia if the counter-claimer is lying.

that's very valid. if the cecilia is town and did hit dawn, they should stay hidden. however, there's the possibility that there is no cecilia in the game at all, which would be a hugely ballsy claim from dawn, but if cecilia isn't in game or is maf, it pays off for him. i wouldn't think too much of it right now without a cc.

As long as Emma Planck lives and is town, outing a role as mafia is the easiest way to track a mafia down. Cecilia being mafia is by far the most probable case if dawn is lying. Any alternative is a huge gamble, when dawn did not even have a significant wagon yet (read, not worth the gamble).

[kaempfer13]

I mean there is literally only one game where coffee has over 20 posts (in fact way more, 168)

you forgot about this one with 22 where I was mafia
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-70-by-linkcat/

fair enough, but thats still only 7 posts a day

Anyway, enough of that topic, although I'm still hung up why rob who advocates activity more than anyone would scumread someone for it with 0 evidence for it and then drop it as a reason entirely the moment he cant use it to scumread someone.

[worldwideweb3]

Also coffee's take of DC's retort to Link's 'reply' to DC's questioning of Link's vote is somewhat on-track with my own. That is, weird way that DC responded to Link. Coffee I think finds the interaction weird (both sides?) though whereas I think that's just Link being Link but DC response is awkward on its own.

Whys DCs response awkward?

DC usually doesn't care too much about various breadposting going on, he picked out this one from Link to ask for a reason on the vote - fair, we often around here ask that - but then Link gives him sass and DC just then decides he doesn't like the general "hate" (votes and shade?) he is getting and is suddenly not interested further in a real reason from Link for the vote. I mean, DC asked in the first place so I presume he had a reason (odd he doesn't push to get one from Link?) or he was just chatting (odd how he still keeps it game-related to votes/pressure he's getting).

www3 - why do you ask?

Just came across to me as a normal meme interaction and nothing more

[rob77dp]

Also coffee's take of DC's retort to Link's 'reply' to DC's questioning of Link's vote is somewhat on-track with my own. That is, weird way that DC responded to Link. Coffee I think finds the interaction weird (both sides?) though whereas I think that's just Link being Link but DC response is awkward on its own.

Whys DCs response awkward?

DC usually doesn't care too much about various breadposting going on, he picked out this one from Link to ask for a reason on the vote - fair, we often around here ask that - but then Link gives him sass and DC just then decides he doesn't like the general "hate" (votes and shade?) he is getting and is suddenly not interested further in a real reason from Link for the vote. I mean, DC asked in the first place so I presume he had a reason (odd he doesn't push to get one from Link?) or he was just chatting (odd how he still keeps it game-related to votes/pressure he's getting).

www3 - why do you ask?

Just came across to me as a normal meme interaction and nothing more

That's cool. Broski, while you're here... are you still voting DC? Why are you still voting DC? It was RNG last I could tell and here you are jumping in questioning someone (me, and coffee too/first) scumreading DC. What's your scumread on him eh?

[worldwideweb3]

Also coffee's take of DC's retort to Link's 'reply' to DC's questioning of Link's vote is somewhat on-track with my own. That is, weird way that DC responded to Link. Coffee I think finds the interaction weird (both sides?) though whereas I think that's just Link being Link but DC response is awkward on its own.

Whys DCs response awkward?

DC usually doesn't care too much about various breadposting going on, he picked out this one from Link to ask for a reason on the vote - fair, we often around here ask that - but then Link gives him sass and DC just then decides he doesn't like the general "hate" (votes and shade?) he is getting and is suddenly not interested further in a real reason from Link for the vote. I mean, DC asked in the first place so I presume he had a reason (odd he doesn't push to get one from Link?) or he was just chatting (odd how he still keeps it game-related to votes/pressure he's getting).

www3 - why do you ask?

Just came across to me as a normal meme interaction and nothing more

That's cool. Broski, while you're here... are you still voting DC? Why are you still voting DC? It was RNG last I could tell and here you are jumping in questioning someone (me, and coffee too/first) scumreading DC. What's your scumread on him eh?

You scrumreading DC makes me doubt my read   

[rob77dp]

Also coffee's take of DC's retort to Link's 'reply' to DC's questioning of Link's vote is somewhat on-track with my own. That is, weird way that DC responded to Link. Coffee I think finds the interaction weird (both sides?) though whereas I think that's just Link being Link but DC response is awkward on its own.

Whys DCs response awkward?

DC usually doesn't care too much about various breadposting going on, he picked out this one from Link to ask for a reason on the vote - fair, we often around here ask that - but then Link gives him sass and DC just then decides he doesn't like the general "hate" (votes and shade?) he is getting and is suddenly not interested further in a real reason from Link for the vote. I mean, DC asked in the first place so I presume he had a reason (odd he doesn't push to get one from Link?) or he was just chatting (odd how he still keeps it game-related to votes/pressure he's getting).

www3 - why do you ask?

Just came across to me as a normal meme interaction and nothing more

That's cool. Broski, while you're here... are you still voting DC? Why are you still voting DC? It was RNG last I could tell and here you are jumping in questioning someone (me, and coffee too/first) scumreading DC. What's your scumread on him eh?

You scrumreading DC makes me doubt my read   

WHAT READ are you referring to? I do not find you reading DC in any direct way... just RNG vote on him (confirm that is your vote on him?) and soft-defend/deflect him.... what read have you posted of him?

[worldwideweb3]

I don’t really remember my reasoning for voting DC tbh LOL, it was 50% rng and 50% instinct, fun to see 3 others pile on 

[andretimpa]

Is there something you want to tell us w3?

dawn to dusk (1) - killsdazombies
DoubleCapitals (4) - worldwideweb3, Calindu, Linkcat, Coffeeditto
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
No Lynch (1) - shockcannon
MasterWalks (5) - PlayerOa, DoubleCapitals, moehrpi, rob77dp, Naii_the_Baf
worldwideweb3 (4) - iancudorinmarian, TheonlyrealBeef, Submachine, andretimpa

[worldwideweb3]

Also coffee's take of DC's retort to Link's 'reply' to DC's questioning of Link's vote is somewhat on-track with my own. That is, weird way that DC responded to Link. Coffee I think finds the interaction weird (both sides?) though whereas I think that's just Link being Link but DC response is awkward on its own.

Whys DCs response awkward?

DC usually doesn't care too much about various breadposting going on, he picked out this one from Link to ask for a reason on the vote - fair, we often around here ask that - but then Link gives him sass and DC just then decides he doesn't like the general "hate" (votes and shade?) he is getting and is suddenly not interested further in a real reason from Link for the vote. I mean, DC asked in the first place so I presume he had a reason (odd he doesn't push to get one from Link?) or he was just chatting (odd how he still keeps it game-related to votes/pressure he's getting).

www3 - why do you ask?

Just came across to me as a normal meme interaction and nothing more

That's cool. Broski, while you're here... are you still voting DC? Why are you still voting DC? It was RNG last I could tell and here you are jumping in questioning someone (me, and coffee too/first) scumreading DC. What's your scumread on him eh?

You scrumreading DC makes me doubt my read   

WHAT READ are you referring to? I do not find you reading DC in any direct way... just RNG vote on him (confirm that is your vote on him?) and soft-defend/deflect him.... what read have you posted of him?

//vote not Necesarily  read

[MasterWalks]

Well i typed up a long reply with quotes and everything but it got deleted and im running low on time. Ill try to post it better when i get to work.

Basically, thanks KDZ for sticking up for me on the personal level of things but i am starting to embrace becoming a meme in mafia.

Rob reasoning to scum read me makes the most sense. The reason i am posting way less is simply becuase i dont have an information role and therefore no information to share. also, i am trying to play a bit smarter with these more complicated rules and wanting to be sure of something before i start spewing words out and losing ALL my credibility.

[rob77dp]

I don’t really remember my reasoning for voting DC tbh LOL, it was 50% rng and 50% instinct, fun to see 3 others pile on 

Well, don't let my scum-lean and reaaction to DC's interaction with Link deter you from your RNG/instinct/test vote on DC. Eh? You should really develop something about a player that you think gives them +EV to be scum to the average player and then vote on that person.


MW- you have more than one person scumreading you and voting you... you say my reason makes sense - can you look at your wagon and the related reasons and try to sus if you think anyone there is scum and who you think taht might be? I know often the person being suspsected and voted up has a unique vantage on how the train is forming and developing on them that everyone else lacks perspective to be able to provide insight about...