Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword

[rob77dp]

DC-

Sure I guess. I just stated once you get off your OMGUS (as you called it at the time) vote or giggles-vote or whatever, then hey make it a more 'real' vote next. www on Link is similar category I suppose... Also - quite interested to see where kae was going with w/e he was doing with moe.

[Linkcat]

Who are we kidding, we're always at that stage.

[Coffeeditto]

Kae - elements mafia 49. Might have to dig it out, i don't remember if that lives in the usual place for old games here it not.

I was town in 49.

I'm interested in having Emma check who Rita is this evening, just so we can address the early burning and misuse of such an ability.

[MasterWalks]

while it does sound like a move i would do, i did not target oa nor Kaempf.
my stance is, we should be keeping an eye on Kaempf.
Kaempf is acting strange, and kinda jumpy but i guess i think that every game i play with him

i personally theorize that who ever acts dumb, but is really quite competent with this rule set will be maf. maf have another platform that they can discuss roles and interactions all while seeing what town is talking about and discovering. they will be more in tune with interactions and what not in this more complicated ruleset.
 
my vote on shock is just a placeholder. Ill remove that now. these rules gimmie too much of a headache to shitpost. ill put a vote on Kaempf, not with intention to lynch, but with the intention of adding some pressure.

dawn to dusk (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, rob77dp, Naii_the_Baf
moehrpi (1) - kaempfer13
shockcannon (1) - Linkcat,
Linkcat (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (1) - DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks

[PlayerOa]

If I'm mafia you better call me out according to the consensus we reached N0. But you won't, because I'm not. Guess a scum Durandal targetting scum Oa is the only world where I'm scum, and even if there is, it doesn't confirm anything.

I'll need doc on me from time to time - not necessarily today, just pick a pattern where scum cannot predict when to NK me.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Kae - elements mafia 49. Might have to dig it out, i don't remember if that lives in the usual place for old games here it not.

I was town in 49.

I'm interested in having Emma check who Rita is this evening, just so we can address the early burning and misuse of such an ability.

Emma is EoR, thus on cooldown N1 if the ability was used N0 as suggested.

Agree on Oas post.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

while it does sound like a move i would do, i did not target oa nor Kaempf.

This is basically hard claim not Rita or Durandal. There is no reason to look for Rita with info roles, since it's almost certainly shock at this point.

[worldwideweb3]

I know you all disagree, but I'm going to keep saying this because maybe 5 games down the road someone will actually listen. No lynch is a viable strategy, and can at times be more winning than lynching based off principle. This is even more true this game, where we have more potential roles that can find mafia and we have roles that can stop the NK. We also, imo, have much more useful information roles that can work together. A random lynch day 1 is almost certainly going to kill a town, unless someone has information to share, or if a mafia slips up really, REALLY badly. I don't see either of those happening yet. Any who thinks you can get a read off of like 3 posts day 1 that aren't slip ups is just lying to themselves.

So unless someone has information to share, we gain a lot by skipping this lynch for the following reasons:

1.) random lynch day 1 is almost always killing a town
2.) random lynch could remove a very useful role that we need
3.) putting someone up for lynch could force a role claim. What if the cop is the one with the most votes towards the end of day and has to reveal now?
3.) keeping more targets alive gives more cover for the useful roles to get the information they need before dying
4.) we have more time to make informed decisions, especially regarding how to use roles since this version of mafia is quite drastically different than previous ones
5.) I personally think day 1 lynch vote patterns are almost always meaningless, unless we get really lucky and find a way to get significant votes on a mafia, forcing them to pull some maneuvers. The odds of this are below 50/50 though (don't BS me with "reads"), and most of the time all we end up with is a dead town, a lost role, and close to zero new info.

I do agree that no lynch does work. Tho for now, it is good to vote and keep talking and look for mafia slipups and such. It is possible to find maf day 1, so we shouldn’t stop looking

[worldwideweb3]

Oh I forgot to say but Yh, medic make sure to target me kthnx

Also whys rob telling DC to look at two wagons forming...it is barely a wagon. So sus much wow nub rob

[kaempfer13]

I cant fathom how you cant see that moe essentially claimed to have knowledge on the scum team or being scum (which means he also has knowledge on the scumteam duh) with his slip.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

What happened to not insulting mafia's intelligence? Soft confirming yourself as mafia is the epitome of stupidity. How about we leave it at confirming the rolls themselves and not the implied meaning behind it?

[PlayerOa]

Tell us what you know about DC, moe. There gotta be something.