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Please check all hours that would work for you as the deadline for each phase.

0 GMT
8 (5.7%)
1 GMT
7 (5%)
2 GMT
7 (5%)
3 GMT
7 (5%)
4 GMT
7 (5%)
5 GMT
4 (2.8%)
6 GMT
4 (2.8%)
7 GMT
4 (2.8%)
8 GMT
4 (2.8%)
9 GMT
5 (3.5%)
10 GMT
5 (3.5%)
11 GMT
4 (2.8%)
12 GMT
3 (2.1%)
13 GMT
2 (1.4%)
14 GMT
3 (2.1%)
15 GMT
4 (2.8%)
16 GMT
3 (2.1%)
17 GMT
5 (3.5%)
18 GMT
9 (6.4%)
19 GMT
9 (6.4%)
20 GMT
11 (7.8%)
21 GMT
9 (6.4%)
22 GMT
9 (6.4%)
23 GMT
8 (5.7%)

Total Members Voted: 16

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 10:29:25 pm

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What kind of setup do you want to see next?

Run the standard setup with minor adjustments.
7 (26.9%)
Run a closed setup designed by Linkcat.
8 (30.8%)
Run a game with all Fate Eggs.
7 (26.9%)
Run an even sillier game just to mess around.
4 (15.4%)

Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 10:47:45 pm

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What to do about Who's Online?

Allow free use of it.
9 (52.9%)
Ban use of it during the last couple hours of each phase.
3 (17.6%)
Ban use of it completely.
5 (29.4%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 11:26:23 pm

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Who played the best mafia?

Linkcat
1 (2.5%)
TheonlyrealBeef
16 (40%)
shockcannon
0 (0%)
PlayerOa
1 (2.5%)
iancudorinmarian
0 (0%)
worldwideweb3
1 (2.5%)
MasterWalks
0 (0%)
andretimpa
0 (0%)
dawn_to_dusk
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
6 (15%)
Submachine
0 (0%)
killsdazombies
0 (0%)
Coffeeditto
7 (17.5%)
rob77dp
3 (7.5%)
DoubleCapitals
1 (2.5%)
Calindu
0 (0%)
Naii_the_Baf
0 (0%)
moehrpi13
4 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 10:51:45 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1299747#msg1299747
« Reply #204 on: July 08, 2020, 09:39:09 pm »
Btw rob, can you link me to the game where coffee tawed up because he was scum? I was going to peck activity from him as towny per default, since he could easily just give us nothing without us noticing anything unusual.
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« Reply #205 on: July 08, 2020, 09:39:48 pm »
yh, but I still think rita targeting me shouldnt be sth thats left unreported, even if it hardconfirms me not durandal or vig.

you can still be durandal
unfortunately not if you put 2+2 together. i would know who I targeted in that case.
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1299749#msg1299749
« Reply #206 on: July 08, 2020, 09:40:37 pm »
Kae - elements mafia 49. Might have to dig it out, i don't remember if that lives in the usual place for old games here it not.
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1299750#msg1299750
« Reply #207 on: July 08, 2020, 09:41:30 pm »
Just the ability being usable, non-lethal and targeted on a person eliminates like half the abilities. We also know it isn't Durandal, as kaempfer explained while I was getting ninja-ed. I agree that using Rita was uncalled for, something to remember for N2 Emma Planck? Would prefer to see a claim and/or explanation before then. If someone acts like that with that role for no good reason, then tries to hide, they're almost certainly scum from my point of view.

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1299751#msg1299751
« Reply #208 on: July 08, 2020, 09:51:13 pm »
Just the ability being usable, non-lethal and targeted on a person eliminates like half the abilities. We also know it isn't Durandal, as kaempfer explained while I was getting ninja-ed. I agree that using Rita was uncalled for, something to remember for N2 Emma Planck? Would prefer to see a claim and/or explanation before then. If someone acts like that with that role for no good reason, then tries to hide, they're almost certainly scum from my point of view.
I hesitate short of calling for a Rita role claim straight out, BUT Rita isn't exactly a power role and really leaves me perplexed it was used on kae on N0 like that (I can actually think of reasons one might think too use it on a few players but kae so far this game is not in that vein for me).
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1299752#msg1299752
« Reply #209 on: July 08, 2020, 10:16:23 pm »
I do not remember any good reasons applicable being mentioned here, least of all for N0. MW did mention it was a "fantastic role" and for that role to "go wild".

I'll accept these as valid reasons to try and lynch shock or MW if one were so inclined. Unfortunately it's not alignment indicative for them and I'm more interested in lynching scum.

Do not need to hard claim Rita yet, just something to keep in mind depending on how N1 goes. Call it a yellow flag if you want.

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1299753#msg1299753
« Reply #210 on: July 08, 2020, 10:19:25 pm »
I'm not gonna insult scums intelligence this game, so I will sum up what roles I can have and what me not immediately jumping to the conclusion that rita is scum means (obviously i know exactly which it is, but this is what you should be able to confirm using basic logic and I am not sure if I should out completely):
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Kiana Kaslana Time Fracture (EoR) Target a player. Their abilities can’t be used tonight, and they can’t vote on the following day. They will be notified. You can’t target yourself. (Uses are refunded. EoR abilities don’t go on cooldown. Failed abilities always produce a notification.)

Raiden Mei Phantom Image (ER) Target exactly two players. Tonight, anything that targets the first player affects the second player instead, and vice versa. This includes the nightkill. You can’t target yourself. (This can cause abilities to be used on otherwise illegal targets, such as for abilities that can’t normally target the user. Note that this ability has very high priority.)
Impossible

Bronya Zaychik Charge Beam (Passive) Not voting increases your Voting Power by 1 the next time you do vote. This effect stacks. (This is checked at the end of the day. In other words, voting and then removing your vote later will simply count as not voting.)
Impossible
Himeko Murata Field of Blades (2U) Target a player. If they are targeted by at least two other role abilities this night, kill them. You can’t target yourself. (Passives, nightkills, and Honkai Core abilities do not count.)
At most 1 other ability targeted Rita or fu hua did.

Yae Sakura Consecrate Ground (EoR) Target up to three players. Other abilities targeting them will fail tonight. You can’t target yourself. (Nightkills are unaffected. Abilities that target a protected player will fail entirely even if their other targets are valid. Uses are refunded. EoR abilities don’t go on cooldown. Failed abilities always produce a notification.)
Possible

Theresa Apocalypse Spear of Judgement (ER) Target a player. If they are a Herrscher, you learn their Honkai Core’s ability type. Otherwise, you learn the ability type of their original role ability. You can’t target yourself. (The ability types are ER, EoR, Passive, and #U. Does not distinguish between Honkai Core abilities and role abilities.)
If rita has a honkai core it is the core of lightning

Fu Hua Phoenix Rebirth (ER) Target player can’t be killed tonight, other than by a modkill. You may target yourself, but you can’t target the same player twice in a row.
Possible

Kallen Kaslana Red Thread of Fate (EoR) Target exactly two players. If one dies tonight, so does the other. You may target yourself, and if you’re a Herrscher, you must do so.
Impossible

Rita Rossweisse Rose Petals (ER) Target a player. If they have any abilities that can be used tonight and can have exactly one target, force them to use it on you. You can’t target yourself. (They will be notified. If successful, this overrides any target(s) they may have selected. The abilities still occur at their normal priority level. EoR abilities still go on cooldown, and #U abilities still lose a use.)
Unique

Liliya Olenyeva Flash Counter (1U) You can’t be killed tonight, other than by a modkill. At the end of the night, kill all players who targeted you with an ability that would have killed you. If the nightkill is prevented this way, this automatically kills one Herrscher, preferring the living Honkai Core holder that appears earliest in the Honkai Core list. (Abilities that do not immediately kill you, or would not have killed you due to a condition not being met, will not trigger this effect.)
Impossible

Rozaliya Olenyeva Typhoon Cutter (2U) Kill target player. If they were a Valkyrie, lose all remaining uses of this ability. You can’t target yourself.
Only possible if fu hua targeted rita


Seele Vollerei Quantum State (Passive) You permanently gain a copy of the first role ability to target you. (Priority matters! You’ll receive a notification. The ability will have all uses remaining, and will not be on cooldown. You still technically have the Quantum State ability.)
Impossible

Durandal Break of Dawn (EoR) Target a player. At the start of the next day, whether they are a Herrscher will be revealed to you. They can’t be voted on that day. (There will be a public notification for this part.) You can’t target yourself.
I would know what i did.

Cecilia Schariac Abyssal Flower (ER) Target a player. If this is the first time you’ve targeted them with this ability, reveal your name and original role to them. If this is the second time you’ve targeted them with this ability, kill them instead. You can’t target yourself.
Rita would know that i am this role

Shigure Kira Idyllic Dreams (EoR) Target up to three players. If any of them targeted you tonight, you learn each other’s name and original role. You can’t target yourself.
i would know ritas identity

Frederica Tesla Radio Wave (ER) Target any number of players. You learn how many abilities those players used tonight, in total. You can’t target yourself. (Includes Honkai Core abilities. You don’t learn the ability name or target. Players can use more than one ability each night.)
rita did not use a honkai core tonight, if I am this role

Lieserl Einstein Theory of Relativity (ER) Target a player. You receive a list of all ability names that targeted them tonight, other than this one. You may target yourself. (Player names are not revealed.)
Possible

Emma Planck Atomic Signature (EoR) Name a role. You learn which player, if any, has that role. (This includes players who have gained that role, and players who are already dead. Honkai Cores are not roles.)
Doesnt directly target

Cocolia Surveillance Network (Passive) At the start of Night 0, you learn the role ability of three random other players. (If you’re a Herrscher, this won’t reveal roles of other Herrschers.)
nope
Sin Mal Soul Funeral (3U) Target a player. If they are lynched tomorrow, you permanently gain a copy of their original role ability if you do not already have it. You can’t target yourself. (You’ll receive a notification. Abilities will have all uses remaining, and will not be on cooldown. You may use multiple abilities in one night.
If I am this role, I kinda want rita dead to not waste my ability, but its not worth lynching a town for it.)
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1299754#msg1299754
« Reply #211 on: July 08, 2020, 10:34:09 pm »
There are arguments to use rita immediately, its just not nice to be on the receiving end no matter what you are. for instance if you force the poison honkai core you can immediately out a scum. The more I think about it and the clearer my head gets the more inclined I am to believe rita is actually town.
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1299755#msg1299755
« Reply #212 on: July 08, 2020, 10:38:33 pm »
moe DC OA are mafia according to my rolls. Infact, as you can see, DC and OA came in both of my rolls :angry:

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1299756#msg1299756
« Reply #213 on: July 08, 2020, 10:39:46 pm »
kae, I'd like you to explicitly rule out Raiden as rob mentioned the possibility. Obviously, we don't know the exact wording in your PM.

That confirms there is Rita who also likes to play ballsy. Maybe too ballsy for town? If we end up finding out a more cautious player is Rita it would hint at scum/scum with an information role such as Cocolia. But there's s big margin of error here.

We also know Durandal is in the game, yay, and this also confirms Oa for me, unless someone speaks up in the next few hours. Take good care of him next night.


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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1299757#msg1299757
« Reply #214 on: July 08, 2020, 10:43:00 pm »
kae, I'd like you to explicitly rule out Raiden as rob mentioned the possibility. Obviously, we don't know the exact wording in your PM.

That confirms there is Rita who also likes to play ballsy. Maybe too ballsy for town? If we end up finding out a more cautious player is Rita it would hint at scum/scum with an information role such as Cocolia. But there's s big margin of error here.

We also know Durandal is in the game, yay, and this also confirms Oa for me, unless someone speaks up in the next few hours. Take good care of him next night.


EBWOP, soft-confirming www3's roll. :/
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1299758#msg1299758
« Reply #215 on: July 08, 2020, 10:44:16 pm »
Obviously, we don't know the exact wording in your PM.
Please note that the System Messages section includes every notification that can arise from normal gameplay, including role ability messages.

(Dynamic messages, such as answers to questions, are not listed for obvious reasons.)

 

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