Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa

[kaempfer13]

our secondary roles are pretty much useless at this time, the people that can target can poke around if anyone other than myself is untargetable and didnt report it, but considering how much i screeched about anubis usage on day2 i dont actually expect him to have used his ability since.

[kaempfer13]

hot take: all living elementals voted for andretimpa

[Submachine]

hot take: all living elementals voted for andretimpa

Ok, that one was funny.

[kaempfer13]

Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies

removing my vote for now - shaking between Cal and Nel

When the two leading wagons became Link and Calindu, Linkcat and rob yelled at him that kae is town. As a result, andre removed his vote from Kae, claiming to place it on Calindu or Annele (Annele was not even a top wagon??). Annele was not even on the plate, and one of the two people voting on her was his mafia buddy. Eventually, he put his vote on Calindu.

If Calindu and timpa are both mafia, this would be a weird parellel between ian wanting to lynch timpa on EOD1 and this. I find the sudden focus on Annele strange. And switching his vote off from his only "scumread" was weird too. I take it back that it makes kae look good, it could have been some verbal bussing. But it does make Annele look a lot better.

I could see that. Link was not an option for timpa due to Day1, i was off the table since shock "confirmed" me and thus if andre didnt want to vote offwagon he'd have to hope for annele to pick up steam as quickly as she did at EoD1 or vote calindu in order to not look sus himself.

[Submachine]

Player	Could be Town	Could be Mafia
Annele	She has been pushed hard by both ian and andretimpa. She was the first to point out that timpa should be lynched.	She has the least amount of posts, so it's hard to put a read on her. She had the perfect excuse to devour Town if Town instructed her to do so.
kaempfer13	He came up with bad plans mid-game, solves often, was confused multiple times. These are townie traits.	He hid behind a bubble this entire game, preventing him from getting checked. The one time he was about to be checked, he was reluctant to open up. He no longer seems to be in panic, even though Town is on the ropes now more than ever. Shock said Kae behaved exactly like scum!Kae would when he fake-confirmed him.
Calindu	Well, looks like I'm going to be lynched, please go after rob and Link after. That Toadfish makes so much sense as mafia, since they need to end the game before people stop trusting them. This is his towniest post. Mafia would not say to look more into two other towns (in hindsight we know), because if he really does flip mafia, those accusations will lose meaning. Timpa broke a tie between him and Linkcat by voting on Calindu.	Linkcat's final scumread was Calindu and said he outted himself. Anubis activating on Night 1 would make sense if Calindu gave Adrenaline to timpa. He did not post his full set of night actions yet.
MasterWalks	He is very open about plans. Makes blind guesses, which is a townie trait. He took part in the revelation of ian. He sounds honest.	He randomly votes on people at times without giving much explanation. He also seems to be more organized in this game than previously.
Ge0metry v1.2	It is possible that he is just inactive town, but that's it.	He has the second least amount of posts, so it's hard to put a read on him. He randomly votes on people at times without giving much explanation, but implying he has a good feeling about it. He did not post his full set of night actions yet. He showed the least effort of solving so far.

[PlayerOa]

Day 6

Spoiler for Lore:

I heard rumors night rhymes with smite.

Annele was nightkilled. She was an Elemental and an Otyugh.

Day 6 has ended.

[MasterWalks]

lol wut

[MasterWalks]

kaempfer (1) - MasterWalks

BeCaUsE VuLtUrE PlAn

[MasterWalks]

Ok why we should actually lynch Kaempf.

Im not going to quote anything because i simply dont wanna dig through the thread.

shock was claiming kae to be town. We know that shock did not 100% know this as he was not GN. Kae actually turned on shock before shock was lynched and he turned on me even after defending him early game.
This kinda shows where this starts

Spoiler for Hidden:

MW, there is a chance shock didnt target me after all

ok. I didnt think i implied he did. im just comfortable believing his townreads atm.

I hope this means you understand?

Nope. Dont understand. Dont know what im supposed to be trying to understand.
I thought the speed of my role was different. I double chekced, asked a question, and now i understand it. I falsely made a pretty hard claim earlier in my reads regarding you and shock. Now that i know my roles speed, i explained honestly and back peddled on my claims as shown here:

My flip on shock and kae is a result of me rereading roles and which ones are faster. In fact, after getting a mod question answered, my town read on shock has lessened and my town read on kaempf has improved.

Now im not GN obv so im not 100% sure you are town, and frankly, your short cryptic messages and role reading me are making me feel less confident about my read on you.

Ok, I give up trying to parse this. the reason I'm being so cryptic is because I don't want more roles to be revealed (you pretty much revealed what your role does, so no use trying to hide it now (I'm by no means encouraging a full claim)) and one of the following things happened:
- I missunderstood shock
- You missunderstood your role (tbf you pretty much admit to that)
- You missunderstood shocks role

He tried to get me to claim early.

Spoiler for Hidden:

Im just trying to give some stuff for people to work with, and im fairly certain my soft claim could be interpreted into like 3 very different roles. If serp is being truthful, then i have 5 confirmed town which puts me in quite a good position. If i die and my role is revealed, i want at least some good information to be passed on.

I've reread the op 4 times and arrive at the conclusion that there is a grand total of 1 type of (not confirmed dead) town roles that would allow you to mechanically discern shocks alignement while simultaneously not knowing but believing serps claim to be true on n1 .

Ugh, this whole thing is a trainwreck again. Nvm me saying that this could turn out to be easy earlier.

Kaempfer is actually laying pretty low. He is smart enough to make the anubis plan
Little note on Andre lynch. Kae was active since first vote was placed. He did not hop on Andre train until the wagon really started gaining movement. Kaempfer is all about vote patterns and im sure hes making sure his look good. I will note he did say he scum read andre but thats not something unusual for mafia to do.

Spoiler for Hidden:

Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
andretimpa (4) - Annele, Submachine, MasterWalks, kaempfer13

Interesting that noone wanted to bus according to my world. Probably because they just need one missvote and mw continued being stupid

Last thing i want to bring up, i have voted on kaempfer first for the last 2 lynches. He blows me off as stupid. Thats fine. But i really think he is trying to illegitimate any argument i could make against him.

I could say more but he has over 200 posts on this thread and im not about to spend 4 hours on a post like sub

[Submachine]

Well, at least now we know for sure she was town.

It is currently 3v2. Let's discuss this tomorrow.

I could say more but he has over 200 posts on this thread and im not about to spend 4 hours on a post like sub

It has merit to look into everything you can think of, so if you vaguely remember something but cannot find it, tell me when it happened and I will try to find it.

[kaempfer13]

Yh, this is probably why you are still alive. Extremely high chance you missvote, because you get hung up on the wrong things.
I only have time for a  gross oversimplifikation right now, but the fact that you say im laying low and at the same time that I have too many posts for you to evaluate them kinda says it all

[MasterWalks]

Yh, this is probably why you are still alive. Extremely high chance you missvote, because you get hung up on the wrong things.
I only have time for a  gross oversimplifikation right now, but the fact that you say im laying low and at the same time that I have too many posts for you to evaluate them kinda says it all

Ah you can spam shitposts and still lay low. If you are only posting safe reads and lynchlogs then yea you are laying low.

But that part is pretty much the least important part.

Is that why you and your team let me live and decided to toy with us by NKing our highest probable lynch?