Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa

[rob77dp]

\flip the tables

I have way better things to do with my life than futz with this much bad play. I couldn't tolerate it before so I quit for a while. The more things change the more they stay the same - the one day I cannot play hard at end of day is the one 8 get screwed. Get rekt town, we (town) lose. I'm town I'm town I'm town. Oh have I mentioned I'm town. I can say it all I want. Did I mention how I know I'm town? They're this ought to give even scum the free pass to hop on me and mass wagon my mislynch. Also, I'll be honest I don't even care if town wins anyone. You've sucked. Get. R. E. K. T.

[rob77dp]

Forgot one thing - put my vote on rob77dp. I'm that dead serious how bad this is. Good night and a cool adieu.

[Calindu]

Ge0metry v1.2 (1) - kaempfer13
rob77dp (6) - shockcannon, MasterWalks, Calindu, Annele, Killsdazombies, rob77dp

However you want it man, but you can't come and blame everyone else for playing poorly, let's be serious about it. Miss me with this bullshit elitism, it doesn't help and it never will. You can't just expect everyone to follow you and agree with your stuff, and you can't tell us we suck if we don't agree.

[andretimpa]

Ge0metry v1.2 (1) - kaempfer13
rob77dp (8) - shockcannon, MasterWalks, Calindu, Annele, Killsdazombies, rob77dp, andretimpa

I agree with everyone saying we need to lynch one of rob/shock. Rob seems like the most viable train, but I have no problem switching to shock. This game has just been pure chaos.

[andretimpa]

Fucked up correcting the counts

Ge0metry v1.2 (1) - kaempfer13
rob77dp (7) - shockcannon, MasterWalks, Calindu, Annele, Killsdazombies, rob77dp, andretimpa

[kaempfer13]

Well, I've been townreading rob all game and I havent seen enough to change that on an emotional level. Even at this stage the only nontowny thing I see from him is acknowledging, but completely dismissing that the Anubis has to be in shock/timpa from his point of view, while scum!shock pretty much ensured he (shock himself) dies within 2 days and didnt even consider timpa as a possible alternative. Only way I see the latter happening is if shock and timpa are scum together or shock lacks foresight, both of which seem plausible to me.
Darn, there are so many things I couldnt do yet since I couldnt focus on this game in the last few days, but with people so deadset to lynch rob I suppose they are not interested in an extension anymore (kinda reminds me of day2 though, so that doesnt mean you guys are all right)

[Submachine]

My vote seems miniscule compared to the other wagon, but sharing thoughts is good, so here I go.~

Linkcat (6) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, Killsdazombies

Looking back at the final votes on Linkcat, my reads are now outdated. If only serprex and TorB are mech confirmed, and kdz is GN who helped find a mafia, then I think 1-2 mafia hides among shock, Calindu, and kaempfer.

One of my PoE contains shock, Calindu, and kaempfer, because I suspect 1-2 mafia was pushing Linkcat's train. And today's Poe (rob, shock, or timpa) also contains shock.

I saw andretimpa shared his role, and he also showed crumbs. Rob was also crumbing his actions, plus he gave constant reports of them. Shock was the only one without supporting crumbs, so I'm less convinced about his case. During role bluffing, it would have been especially useful to hint at the truth. (If there are crumbs shock forgot to share and he points them out, my vote will change to rob.)

Focus on how much the others try to solve, and in the end, put a higher Town lean on people with higher solve rate

At the beginning of the game, I decided to give higher town lean to those who solve more, and before his grand plan, there weren't many of shock's. This mentality also proved to be true between ian and kdz, so I'm sticking with it.

So to me, the lines converge here. I analyzed each scenario where rob and shock are v/w and w/v, and while both worlds seem plausible, voting shock made more sense to me.

Ge0metry v1.2 (1) - kaempfer13
rob77dp (7) - shockcannon, MasterWalks, Calindu, Annele, Killsdazombies, rob77dp, andretimpa
shockcannon (1) - Submachine

[kaempfer13]

Here is all the relevant spew I could find from ian; just dumping it here for now, will work through it in time. I left out the obv parts that point to kdz town, it goes without saying.

@calin,

1) My vote switches weren't random.
2) rob is currently my strongest town read after the deja vu pair

This looks like Calin and ian are not aligned.

andretimpa (6) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (1) - Ge0metry

Fine by me.

Seems reluctant, I'll have to find the conversation that led up to this. Yh, still gotta do this

Iancu are you okay with lynching andre? If so then we can end this charade. Annele is being voted as a viable counterwagon because shock, MW, and serp are being dumb by voting me, Annele and kaempfer's votes are legit.

I don't even know anymore. Way too much stuff going on. I could be persuaded to lynch you, even. I'll try the Annele lynch, I'll see where trusting rob takes me.

andretimpa (3) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (4) - Ge0metry, rob77dp, Linkcat, iancudorinmarian

Here he favors voting annele over andre or Link for an arbitrary reason; doesnt look like a busattempt in the slightest (and makes me a little sus of andre)

TorB, I'm not going to do a read on everyone. I simply lack the motivation to go through so many posts. If there are a few people I've omitted that you want an opinion on, feel free to ask.

andre and Sub currently have the most lynch votes. You put Sub as n, so let's look at andre. Are you okay with him being lynched, or is there someone else you would prefer getting lynched?

I wouldn't be opposed to a timpa lynch tbh. He didn't really contribute much except for a small poke at rob. Although I don't necessarily scumread him (timpa), I'm still against no-lynch as a concept. So unless timpa comes up with something, I would probably place him at "n-".

rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Annele, MasterWalks, DoubleCapitals

ok this post does sound like timpa, ian not w/w

Albeit late, here's my updated readlist.

vv
serprex - you know why

v
rob - Still my strongest town read. Make of that what you wish.

n+
TorB - I can see where kae is coming from, but it feels way too conspiracy theory to me. TorB is still a town-lean for me.
MW - Not sure what to think of him. He's asking for the reads of some very specific people. Town behaviour, I'd say.

n
shock - I don't even read his posts. I'm too low IQ to understand, so I just ignore.
Calin - I haven't seen anything unusual from him yet.
Sub - I don't know. I don't like reading walls of texts, so I kinda ignore those. People with more patience can feel free to analyze them better.
kdz, DC, Ge0 - No clue whatsoever.

n-
Linkcat - U N L Y N C H A B L E
andre - Still one of the people I suspect. To be honest, I don't like how easy it was to forget about him entirely.

w
Annele - I really don't like how hard she was to lynch D1.
kae - As said, his theories feel way too conspiracy-oriented.

ww

pretty obvious that he doesnt put his buddies in scumreads with reasons like that; theres much more to take from his readlists, but I dont have the time for it

iancu--
This is about the point in the game(s?) I recall town you revealing juicy tidbits of info you've collected while flying mostly under the radar. Remind me, are you just sheeping my Annele read or are you on an independent scumread of her??

Unfortunately, my role is not an information role at all, and that's all I'll say about it.

My Annele scumread started with sheeping yours, but while you seem to have mostly let that be in the past, I'm still clinging on to it. That's about all I have, even at this late stage of the game. I don't really have a plan tbh, too many fate eggs, too many unknowns still.

Imo this still reads like not w/w, at the risk of proving myself an idiot within the next hour once again. Blindly sheeping a scumpartner is pretty much unheard of as it serves little purpose; it doesnt deepen the case and you are already on the same team, no reason to buddy up like that. Obv Annele still not teamed with ian either.

[kaempfer13]

Woah, woah, woah. Why are we lynching Annele now? How is Link almost dead? How come rob has literally no votes on him anymore after being suspected by almost everyone? Placeholder vote until I get some answers.

andretimpa (3) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, rob77dp, Linkcat
serprex (1) - iancudorinmarian

There is also this bit. Sounds almost dissappointed robs not on the table anymore. It feels like I've made the wrong call every occasion possible in this game, but i just cant see rob as scum.

[shockcannon]

The only rob is town is if Andre is the mafia Anubis. And that just seems highly unlikely to me given that Ian was ready to kill him. The only way I see Andre as mafia is if kaempf is also mafia and the reason he started the extension vote is to give Andre more time since he was a leading vote before the extension. And kaempf being mafia makes rob seem more mafia also.

[kaempfer13]

Oh well, i suppose nothing will change about this voteresult. If rob is scum, just always do the opposite of what i say and you should be on a great path. And if rob is town after all, then timpa should pretty much always be scum regardless of shocks alignement, as v!shock either wrongly cleared him or s!shock didnt want him involved in the thunderdome.

[PlayerOa]

Night 4

Spoiler for Lore:

The race is getting tight. Here's the fourth night.

rob77dp was lynched. He was an Elemental and a Fate Egg [Dragonfly].

Night 4 has ended.