Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa

[Linkcat]

There's no way that I'm lynching anyone but Annele and kaempfer in the next two days. I agree kaempfer is a little more likely mafia than Annele, but lynching Annele is the only way we get a clear picture of what happened Day 1. Kaempfer can wait until tomorrow.

[serprex]

Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (1) - serprex

[Linkcat]

I'd like to propose town!Annele:

Why didn't mafia show up & put a thumb on the scale when 3/5 or 4/5 town were on Linkcat? Because insane town was doing it well enough.

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

[serprex]

Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi

2/5 of those are confirmed town. I expect 1.5 more are town

"insane" references you saying

They only got No Lynch because all the sane town knew that killing me was a bad idea.

Meanwhile you & rob are wanting an infolynch. Hypocrites

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Torb, I see no reason you shouldn't divulge whether you're adrenal. Also, does adrenal burrowed count towards parity? My understanding is "no" but seems a weird interpretation when parity rules are really just outlining how to not allow mafia to slowroll

Well, was hoping for a nightkill misfire, but I figure that's a long shot, regardless. I am adrenal, which is why I know someone targeted me.

[Linkcat]

In a kaempfer/Annele world, if the other mafia are in Torb/kdz/DC then they weren't able to vote, it wouldn't be Cal's style to jump on me and it's obviously not Ge0, so I'm not sure how you would expect them to put a thumb on the scale there.

This is different from an infolynch in that I see no scenario in which I don't lynch Annele in the next two days, I just want more time with rob to figure out all possible worlds before one of us dies.

[kaempfer13]

You guys are all insane. So long as shock vouches for me and lives or flips town egg I shouldnt even be on the table for the lynch, no matter how outrageous you find the things I say.

You dont lynch someone you can mechanically confirm as town. Linkcat knows that, it was a big topic in his championship game. I dont even know wtf kind of mech clears other than the daja vus hes talking about when he's still ready to lynch me. If you look at his last night, you also see much more blatant attempts at rolefishing than I ever had.

(As for why i was arguing with MW about roles is it was blatantly obv what kind of roles he might have and he was spreading misinformation about what his role told him, probably by mistake. Btw, I wasnt poisoned n1 because I'm still alive. Besides the things you said dont make any sense in that scenario. Reread the op 10 times and ask Oa about everything before you make more mistakes)

[shockcannon]

Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - serprex, shockcannon

[Annele]

Um, Sub even calls it an RQS in the post where he asks the questions that you answered. Are you faking not knowing this? Seems odd that you picked it out to respond to but then don't know that's what Sub called it. I may be tunneling at this point on my scum-read of you, but it sure looks like you were told somewhere else to go answer Sub's questions and/or knew the questions to answer without having to dig through the thread to find his post (that is, if you had found the Sub post to answer them you likely quote it and/or see it called an RQS).

I don't know what half the acronyms people are using mean, but this one was directed at me so I thought I'd clarify. I answered the questions because when I turned up to check the thread at that time that's what people were doing. I'm not able to be here most of the time, but I do try to participate where I can.


I did hope that there would be more public information to work with after n1, but I'm getting more and more suspicious of kae. Still think Linkcat's dodgiest though.

Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (3) - serprex, shockcannon, Annele

[kaempfer13]

Hypothesis: Calindu, Torb are mafia green nymph and Anubis respectively. Cal actually targeted Torb n1, which allowed TorB to use his ability again tonight (on serp so it wouldnt be possible to save him in the future). TorB had no reason to fear the nightkill now, but regular targeting. There was 2 confirmed town, TorB is never going to be mechanically confirmable and this game isnt a solo experience where you have to live as long as possible anyway. So TorB pretended he would still going to be untargetable (which he actually was), discouraging town from attempting to target him, while Cal knew he could make TorBs cover as graboid more believable by claiming he targeted torb today, explaining his power to vote in the future even as burrowed graboid. However he forgot that he didnt have a particular good reason to target TorB.

I'm extremely reluctant to vote outside Link, Cal or Torb today.

[Calindu]

So long as shock vouches for me and lives or flips town egg I shouldnt even be on the table for the lynch, no matter how outrageous you find the things I say.

Why would you be unlynchable if shock lives? Sure, if shock vouches for you and flips something that can 100% verify you as town, then sure. But right now? There's no reason you should be that confident in this idea.

However he forgot that he didnt have a particular good reason to target TorB.

This is funny. I'm Green Nymph, yeah, I can confirm that. There was a good chance my ability would fail if TorB didn't unburrow, that's correct as well. But I find Green Nymph to be useless except for this very niche, so why not at least try to use it like this?
It allows me to see if he is actually untargetable or not. It allows one of my town reads to vote while not being NKable, and if it weren't for the need to disclose that, it might even bait a NK. Even if he is mafia, it forces him to vote since I know he has adrenaline and can't use the Graboid excuse anymore.

I'm sorry, but I can't town read you anymore after this.

Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (3) - serprex, shockcannon, Annele

[kaempfer13]

Because shock all but confirmed that he gned me n1