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Who played the best mafia?

iancudorinmarian
2 (5.9%)
TheonlyrealBeef
3 (8.8%)
worldwideweb3
5 (14.7%)
Annele
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
1 (2.9%)
Calindu
0 (0%)
Linkcat
1 (2.9%)
moehrpi
0 (0%)
Submachine
13 (38.2%)
serprex
0 (0%)
MasterWalks
0 (0%)
andretimpa
1 (2.9%)
rob77dp
2 (5.9%)
shockcannon
1 (2.9%)
killsdazombies
4 (11.8%)
DoubleCapitals
0 (0%)
Coffeeditto
1 (2.9%)
Ge0metry v2.0
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 15

Voting closed: June 26, 2020, 09:57:32 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297782#msg1297782
« Reply #876 on: May 27, 2020, 07:27:53 am »
Problem is that when Psion fails, it does not confirm anything, especially if I were mafia. I might be immaterial, guarded by a warden or even be a Seraph. Mafia can even dirty me on purpose if I'm town by role-blocking others trying to Psion me, though they'd probably rather protect someone from Otyugh, if they even have a Warden.

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297783#msg1297783
« Reply #877 on: May 27, 2020, 07:51:42 am »
Q1: How would you play if you were mafia?
Q2: Can you provide an example of when you played as mafia like that?
Q3: If not, can you provide the latest game when you were mafia?

Q1: Try to be active and as helpful as possible, stay out of spotlight and use the extra information I have.
Q2: I tried to play like that in Mafia 72, but I pretty much failed to do that.
Q3: Mafia 72

I would really really love to see some motivation to really put something into it right now N1 from the current likely POE that is town -- such as Cal, kills, and DC who have been somewhat low posters (content posts wise) as well as the scummy-from-content section of Annele, kae, and shock. If you're in those groups and you're town get the engine going and put something out there (if you're scum in that list feel free to be towny and WIM-it-up to put some things out there too).

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Nah, I won't put more effort than I'm already putting in, sorry. I spent some time on that readlist, only to be told I'm already dead or that it's bad.
Not posting enough content and not being able to provide info with your role = lynched soon sadly.

Just noticing that Cal's read list N1 has myself and Link as his only wolf reads... with some explanatory follow-up about associative reads of not w/w but yet possibly w/w because capable? Then some things about w/v and v/w from my developing a town-read on link during EOD1. Not sure I followed what he might be even trying to say with it...

Look back to top of Cal's read list post and he mentions not switching to Link or rob (as a few people requested at/around/during EOD1)  because didn't feel like lynching me or LInk was a good idea. Cal -- give a little background or comment about your staying on timpa because of not liking a rob or Link lynch when we are you top two suspects but yet not w/w together. I'm confused by you essentially stating you didn't want to lynch your top two scumreads??

Like I said, I'm not sure of my read list, that's just how I see things right now. Also, I couldn't possibly be fully active at EOD1, so I wasn't managing to keep up with all the posts. I felt at that time that lynching you or Link is a bad idea, since I was reading andre as low as you or Link and you two would be way more useful if you were town.

If there's actually a town otyugh out there who is thinking of randomly devouring tonight, please let me know ASAP so I can reveal my role before you do something stupid.

Alternatively, how do you feel about them devouring Calindu instead of our bloc?

Please do, I would be way more useful this way, town sees their whole strategy is bad and will lead nowhere and won't have to spent the whole day lynching me.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297784#msg1297784
« Reply #878 on: May 27, 2020, 08:17:06 am »
@rob: Later today. I also plan to say something to DC once I will not be on phone.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297785#msg1297785
« Reply #879 on: May 27, 2020, 09:10:38 am »
Calin, if the mafia team is who I think it is then you actually played the best out of all of them, you just ended up in the bottom half of the POE due to mechanical reasons.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297786#msg1297786
« Reply #880 on: May 27, 2020, 09:48:59 am »
It feels right to sus a player who does the RQS but has done nothing else this game except things I find scummy... Annele, who do you want to push tomorrow? Maybe you've read the whole thread, maybe not... maybe you can discuss in wolf-chat the answer if you're not caught up? But, who is a suspect you want to push tomorrow??

I'm not sure what you mean by rqs?

At the start of the day I would have said linkcat still, since even though he was less in control at the end of day he still seemed suspicious to me. End of days are always in the middle of the night for me so I haven't ever experienced one and don't really know how to process them. Reading through the posts since, I don't really know what to think. But serp seems less interested in link and I'm inclined to follow his lead. kae I think would be an interestig path to go down, since peple I have scum and town read in the past are both pushing him right now, which is certaimly making me reconsider things. I'm also interested to see what will happen tonight. A bit more concrete info might help me get my head around everything, kinda lost right now
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297787#msg1297787
« Reply #881 on: May 27, 2020, 09:53:59 am »
probably means that he isnt aligned with either of them and he probably could have just lynched Linkcat and be done with it as scum, so I maintain my townlean.
I still have my doubts wrt to Linkcat; I have decentish townreads of everyone on his train (except Annele not sure about her, but she wasnt around for EoD frenzy and i dont really scumread her either), so I actually still think its possible that he's scum and his team couldnt risk saving him without potentially outing themselves as the votes were somewhat volatile and if Linkcat had been lynched as scum everyone voting for counterwagons at EoD would be watched more closely.

I'll have another look at Annele/shockcannon, but so far I'm feeling pretty neutral towards Annele and townlean shockcannon for different reasons now.
Something doesn't make sense in a cognitive sense on this from kae.

What I mean is, he is townreading timpa and thinks he isn't aligned with either of Link / Annele --- so he scum-reads both Link Annele right? Keep reading and alright yeah a scum-read on likely-town-Link but then goes into weird convoluted detail about Annele as a townread in a group yet singled out as not sure on her but then about her EOD absence then yeah not scumreading her?? Following paragraph is about looking into Annele/shock yet he is now neurtral on Annele and town on shock... what are you looking into? What are these different reasons? How are you getting to that while also getting to or not the lynchlog (Votecount analysis?)... ? Is it getting hard to WIM-it-up in the scum-chat? :-/ You had me quite fooled if your a wolf Kae, which is seeming more and more likely.
Ok, bad wording; I meant he isnt aware of being aligned with them. as in not w/w. The reason I'm singling out Annele is because she placed her vote at a point in time where Linkcat wasnt really in danger of being lynched (and went to bed afai can tell), so i think we cant derive much from her vote other than her intial read which is either just an actual read or distancing. I'm putting shock and annele together because the question was posed in that way and in fact telling that they are not connected imo.

Look man, doing a lynchlog takes 2 hours of concentrated work in my experience and I just dont have these long streaks of free time right now.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297788#msg1297788
« Reply #882 on: May 27, 2020, 09:58:06 am »
Actually rest assured that lynchlogs would be my number #1 priority if I were scum as they are kind of my trademark and a welcome excuse to not put time into solving
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297789#msg1297789
« Reply #883 on: May 27, 2020, 10:00:52 am »
And my Annele read outside of timpa or Linkcat scum is a big fat null at the time, hence why I want to look into her; the reasons I like shock I need time to put into comprehensive words.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297790#msg1297790
« Reply #884 on: May 27, 2020, 10:02:58 am »
Actually rest assured that lynchlogs would be my number #1 priority if I were scum as they are kind of my trademark and a welcome excuse to not put time into solving
Except making those lynch logs -and analyzing them in the meantime- are arguably a part of solving.

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297791#msg1297791
« Reply #885 on: May 27, 2020, 10:04:39 am »
I could have been a broken record yesterday that i think Linkcat is scum and the late votes on him were all town, while the other candidates were just LHFs, but I felt I made that clear and thus the discussion just went away from things i had a strong opinion on.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297792#msg1297792
« Reply #886 on: May 27, 2020, 10:09:55 am »
Q1: How would you play if you were mafia?
Q2: Can you provide an example of when you played as mafia like that?
Q3: If not, can you provide the latest game when you were mafia?
I have no clue. I don't even remember the last time I was mafia.

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297793#msg1297793
« Reply #887 on: May 27, 2020, 10:28:17 am »
other than Rob forgetting to use logic in his reaction test obv
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