Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa

[Submachine]

Sub, I kind of think you're town, so in the interest of not confusing you I should clarify that I have no idea what you're talking about in regards to my role.

Well, either way, I see more benefit in keeping my wild theory low. In case I am correct, not talking about it can benefit more than revealing it.

Ironically, if I am wrong, it benefits Town a lot more if I bring it up than if I don't.

Sub: my take is that 3-4 no-votes is way more than necessary for graboid hiding. It's not really too important to hide graboid so much as to hide someone hiding as graboid. & that's assuming the tally suits what you think is right

What we have going on right now is a joke

Annele revealed she is not Graboid, so we only have TorB. I am only the second non-voter. But I tell you this; If I am not a Graboid and I find the tally outrageous, I will be sure to drop a bomb.

During my search, I barely remember andre's posts. But I do remember that being part of the argument against him. And that he posted underwhelming reads. Compared to Linkcat, it is an acceptable lynch for me.

[MasterWalks]

I'll eat my shoe if sub isnt town

This comment is based solely on reading the thread. He did not gain any information from his role.

And you know it, because... ?

What I mean is, everyone assumed kae was not the Golden Nymph after the GN dropped dead, and no other roles check primaries, so it felt obvious to me that it was only a read. But you seem to have knowledge of his role. Possibilities, from most likely to least likely:

• I don't wanna say it out loud. Let's just say "This is not the time to be softing...".
• MW only made an assumption but treated it like a fact (kae could have been Egg Nymph for all we know).
• MW and kae are working together outside the topic.

I wanted to point out it was a bad read.

edit:

My role has nothing to do with me believing serp or really my kaempfer read.

I did not see this. >_> I do not delete this part from my post, in case MW slipped and someone else instructed him to make an excuse. (Still the least likely explanation from the three.)

TOWN READS (in order of most town read to least town read)
shockcannon- My role gives me insight that he is town

Hmmm......

(No, Sub, this is not the time for softing either. Get it together.)

In case MW is Town, I make no comment here. Even though I am very tempted.

This list was made before i understood my role.

Sub is never low key as scum.

I am never low key as Town either. Ask Jonny boi (JCJ).~

TOWN READS
submachine- is doing submachine stuff. i expect him to be slightly more low key as scum.
Rob- Im on the rob wouldnt be that stupid as scum bandwagon

Sub is never low key as scum.

I do think your correct on sub, and i would like to remove him at this time from my town reads

This is literally how this conversation was, without any skips.

It didn't take much convincing, yet Link has been also saying rob would do the same thing if he was scum, but rob stayed in MW's townreads. Maybe it's because this time Link directly spoke to MW, and not to everyone. It cannot be that MW just trusts Linkcat enough to take his word, because Link was not on his read list. But let's break down the options.

• MW is Town:
  
  • MW felt intimidated that Link spoke to him directly, so quickly changed his opinion. Sheeping would be a town trait.
  • MW may not trust Link, but believes his judgment about other players. Link spoke to him directly, so he caught this message, but he missed Link's similar anti-thesis about rob, where Link says rob would be capable to do the same thing as Mafia.
  • Linkcat reminded MW something else with his comment, which MW didn't elaborate. Whether MW disagrees with Link's view on rob or just ignores it, is unknown.
• MW is Mafia, Link is Town: MW changed his opinion quickly, because the readlist was fake. If Mafia can justify townreading less Town players, they would take the chance. It makes lynching them later easier. But just as suddenly voting on someone who a person has townread the whole game, this sudden switch is also suspicious.
• MW is Mafia, Link is Mafia: Almost the same as above, except MW felt like Link was suggesting him to change his play. It would make sense too for Link to command other mafia if he was one.

I do not know what MW pays attention to, who he trusts, if he would sheep, or if he can be intimidated so easily, so I am keeping all possibilities open. Though I do hope he clarifies.

Uh, i dont have a good read on link, therefore i do not trust him. He seems like he wants to wrastle rob for control of the thread? idk but i dont fell intimidated by him, more he made a point i agreed with and it changed my mind. Im sure you are paranoid both scum and not, or at least play the character well.

edit:

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Rob (hes fate egg. it took long enough. Could be wrong but i dont think that doesnt mean hes not mafia)

His next readlist reveals he actually put rob back too. Though it feels like only because he revealed Fate Egg, and only after he revealed Fate Egg.

[serprex]

Sub: ian isn't voting

[serprex]

Sub: kdz isn't voting

[Linkcat]

Sub: moe isn't voting.

[Linkcat]

Sub, I kind of think you're town, so in the interest of not confusing you I should clarify that I have no idea what you're talking about in regards to my role.

Well, either way, I see more benefit in keeping my wild theory low. In case I am correct, not talking about it can benefit more than revealing it.

Ironically, if I am wrong, it benefits Town a lot more if I bring it up than if I don't.

Sub: my take is that 3-4 no-votes is way more than necessary for graboid hiding. It's not really too important to hide graboid so much as to hide someone hiding as graboid. & that's assuming the tally suits what you think is right

What we have going on right now is a joke

Annele revealed she is not Graboid, so we only have TorB. I am only the second non-voter. But I tell you this; If I am not a Graboid and I find the tally outrageous, I will be sure to drop a bomb.

During my search, I barely remember andre's posts. But I do remember that being part of the argument against him. And that he posted underwhelming reads. Compared to Linkcat, it is an acceptable lynch for me.

You're wrong, please share with the rest of the class.

[MasterWalks]

rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, rob77dp, Calindu, shockcannon
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13,
Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks


This will probably get me a lotta heat but i really want to drive home how wrong i was about my role. Shock and Kae are at n- for me now.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Sub: DoubleCapitals isn't voting

[kaempfer13]

rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Calindu, shockcannon
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, rob77dp

I am not keen on voting right next to another scum!lean I have, but timpa got no traction (feels like a scenario/issue that might be true of a scum!timpa) -- who willing to vote Annele with me?

what the hell? He had more traction than ever, you claim the opposite (which you somehow believed) would mean that he's scum and your conclusion is unvoting him?!

[Linkcat]

rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (2) - Linkcat, Calindu
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, rob77dp, shockcannon
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks

You're right, this is not helping.

[Submachine]

Can we stop clowning around with our votes & vote rob now?

Suggestion for future: skip this EOD crap & let it be by secret ballot. Mod posts votes at start of night phase

As much as I agree with you, I don't feel comfortable with letting rob eat grass yet.


I keep missing posts because of new replies being posted. Bear with me if I don't react to something, in case I completely cannot find it at first. D:<

[serprex]

oh hey kae, you still feeling stubborn?