I already shot down your garbage scum reads, which luckily for you, puts you at the top of my innocent list.
You can reread my previous post for why it's almost impossible for andre, kaempf, and rob to all be mafia. As for individuals:
andretimpa - I've already explained why I think the voting has made it obvious that andre is town. There's also way too many people calling out andre right now for somewhat questionable posts but nowhere near enough to warrant the amount of attention he's receiving. You might not see this as a justifiable reason, but for me it's a major red flag that andre has gotten as much negative attention as he has. If andre was mafia, I would expect to see much more attempts by various players to steer conversation in other directions either by disagreeing with comments on andre or simply pushing other players more into focus. If andre was town and made some mistakes causing other town to all suspect him, you would see the mafia allow things to continue developing as they have now.
The fact that I'm the only one who thinks andretimpa is town has gotta be a red flag. Either that, or he played terribly, and I suppose there is a small chance that he's just a free mafia lynch for us that we should be jumping on and not letting go. But I have my doubts.rob - I mean, I think he's mafia. So no issues here. Even if he flips town that vastly improves all our other reads since he's received several votes already and has interacted heavily with almost everyone. Rob should be really be the #1 contender for day 1 lynch. Like imagine lynching andre. If he's mafia great, but if he's not we don't gain a whole lot. Even if rob is town I still think we gain quite a bit.
kaempf - Well I have my own reasons for believing he's town. However, if we delve strictly into his posts, the most important thing he's done so far is start a timer extension vote. Now this can be interpreted three ways in my opinion.
1.) He could be a mafia looking to extend the timer to give more time to deflect votes off another mafia. Submachine and andretimpa were the two at risk during this time. I already explained why I think it's unlikely for andretimpa to be mafia. Submachine + kaempf is a mafia combo I have considered and haven't quite thrown out yet. That's something we could look into.
2.) He's a town who wants to give town more time to discuss, which can be good because it provides more opportunities for mafia to slip up. It also would've prevented a potential last minute swap race that looked highly possible with submachine and andretimpa so close in votes and no one else having basically any. He also hasn't voted on anyone. Additionally, you mention how he defends rob, but personally I think defending someone can actually be a strong town trait. I think mafia members are more likely to deflect and switch focus when their teammate is in danger as opposed to directly defending as kaempf has done.
3.) He's a mafia member who started the time extension vote to gain credibility as a town. Personally, I think he's WAAAAY too much of a noob to pull this off, but I suppose he's got 3 other members to help him. A possibility but I find this third option to be the least likely.
Lastly, you entertain the idea of me being mafia. You then ask MW if he thinks it's likely for both me and kaempf to be mafia to which he responds that it's unlikely. Now, if you assume your 4 scum reads are accurate, then that leaves MW as town. You clearly valued his input somewhat, so then his response contradicts your reads. If you assume MW is mafia then clearly your other 4 scum reads aren't viable anymore. Regardless, trusting other's opinions on the matter conflicts with your own reads and so you have to choose.
And since we're on the topic of MW, this post is a massive red flag for me.
dont think they share a primary
His opinions have changed greatly about me and kaempf and this reads to me like he's being influenced by another chat. It also feels like it's a setup for him to change his opinions/votes later on without repercussion from others.
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