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Who played the best mafia?

iancudorinmarian
2 (5.9%)
TheonlyrealBeef
3 (8.8%)
worldwideweb3
5 (14.7%)
Annele
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
1 (2.9%)
Calindu
0 (0%)
Linkcat
1 (2.9%)
moehrpi
0 (0%)
Submachine
13 (38.2%)
serprex
0 (0%)
MasterWalks
0 (0%)
andretimpa
1 (2.9%)
rob77dp
2 (5.9%)
shockcannon
1 (2.9%)
killsdazombies
4 (11.8%)
DoubleCapitals
0 (0%)
Coffeeditto
1 (2.9%)
Ge0metry v2.0
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 15

Voting closed: June 26, 2020, 09:57:32 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297287#msg1297287
« Reply #408 on: May 25, 2020, 02:37:05 am »
@rob At that point I'd say I had only "people to look more closely at" instead of anything more substantial.

My read on you was mostly because of your N0 move, as I said in my previous post.

Torb was coming out a bit more aggressive than I remembered players in general to be. I see this now as more it being his style and me never having played with him (since he's doing it with kaemp and me too, without no one thinking it's out of the ordinary).

Serp was a very weak read, due to him "shooting first and asking questions later" with his instavote on you when the day began (I was still willing to believe there could have been a legit reason for your move - see my post asking you how that was a good move). I believe this was also a bit fueled by the fingerpointing between the 2 of you, in what was really early D1. Of course he's verified in my book since his claim.

Anelle's "voting but not really voting" plus she putting the idea of you being Fate Egg out in the open still rub me the wrong way (even though it made your actions more sensible to me).
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297288#msg1297288
« Reply #409 on: May 25, 2020, 03:14:12 am »
timpa - we were scum together before... I remember your playstyle that game being not remarkably unlike this one. As I recall, you did some posting, mostly avoided the POE, and took things easy (I think we swept that game, or close to it). There you didn't have to do much trying to look solve-y --- I want to see you try to do some solving? Do a dive into a player's play so far with an ISO, or full set of reads. Need something that you put out that is genuine solving or game effort from you. So far, I really just see a bit of wallowing that is reminding me of your scum meta.

OK, so you had TorB as scummy at a prior point for being more aggressive than you remember players generally being? Surely you've seen how a handful of players around here approach this game with a bit of aggression - why was it scummy from TorB? And now you suddenly have him mostly toward the town-ish end of your reads just because you think that is his playstyle... why is it not believable for you that he is just doing a good job of modeling a possible scum!TorB play after his play others have seen as town!TorB??

Annele you scumread for ?something about her and I's interaction? but then Link had a post that you state took her to "?" in your reads, and now she is back to rubbing the wrong way without her having done much (anything??). Give a bit more detail in your thought on progressing this read this way.

On me, you say you found my N0 action scummy at first but you were earlier scumreading serp for his voting me for my N0 action? If you're town, then I'd have expected you to find it towny of serp to act that way given you scumread me for the same thing. You now have me neutral read right up next to the Deja claim-pair citing my N0 action making more sense to you now I've explained it. What do you make of serp still scumreading me for it??

I guess not anything I want to press in on about your serp read, given almost the whole game is now reading that pair nearly-confirmed from the claim.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297289#msg1297289
« Reply #410 on: May 25, 2020, 03:21:32 am »
-snip-
What do you make of serp still scumreading me for it??
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Stop misrepresenting me. I've agreed that fate egg devour was a fine play at least 3 times now

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297290#msg1297290
« Reply #411 on: May 25, 2020, 03:23:34 am »
Serp-

What?? I represented you as scumreading me... you tell me stop misrepresenting you in the same post that you double-down on scumreading me. What gives on that? I don't follow at all where you thinking.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297291#msg1297291
« Reply #412 on: May 25, 2020, 03:26:17 am »
"for it" implies my scumread is based on your night action. That is false

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297292#msg1297292
« Reply #413 on: May 25, 2020, 03:28:46 am »
@rob

I can give you that tomorrow, gotta sleep now.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297293#msg1297293
« Reply #414 on: May 25, 2020, 03:29:18 am »
MW--
You had a somewhat mecahnical town-read on kae earlier today... then something about "sour" read on some kae posts has kae as your top scumread? Can you expand any on the "sour taste" aspect of the posts? I have a town-read on kaempfer right now, what do you see that I'm not seeing?? (I would agree he has done some defending of me - does it go beyond you finding it scummy he defends me when he should be more uncertain of my alignment or is it just that)
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Everything you said in the last 2 pages have left a sour taste. TORB brings up a good point about you defending rob a little too much, especially this late only because you think he thinks different than you now. Maybe my confidence is misplaced and shock is wrong. Weird of you to try to sway me from him when my trust in him is what made me town read you.

"for it" implies my scumread is based on your night action. That is false
I had understood you found my N0 scummy... I'm mid development of a larger encompassing reads post and have yet to get to ISO of you from today - if you go further into it there I'll get to it... if there is something more lay it out here.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297294#msg1297294
« Reply #415 on: May 25, 2020, 04:12:23 am »
So apparently posting a lot doesn't mean you have a good read on things, it just means you know how to write a lot

Alright shock, let's go with one of your three picks

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I'll be as sorry as rob was about coffee being town if rob flips town. I've been playing with my votes quite a bit, but at this point I'll say my vote is final. Don't even care if moe wants to vote differently

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297295#msg1297295
« Reply #416 on: May 25, 2020, 04:23:37 am »
aw being confirmed town is lonely, nobody cares about my reads now

oh well here they are

rip www3, coffee

confirmed serp, moe

v torb, masterwalks, geo

n+ shock, link, sub

n ian, ann, kdz, dc

n- cal, kae

w rob, timpa

People who talk about "genuineness" of posts lose credibility with me. In particular I didn't like kae's "Linkcat is sus" post. He'd probably be n for me if that post hadn't happened

I think rob's a scummy egg fwiw, reasons based on info outside of devour action. Basically we're positionally at odds, which means that if rob isn't scum then my reads are bad, so lynching him at least gets info on where my reads are

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Looking at your posts, I see you taking exception to how I played N0 which you are saying also is NOT your read on me. I guess then since you don't seem to want to give a more clear definition of your scum-read on me it must be this emphasized bit above as an infolynch? Am I misreading again - if so then please do the explaining yourself because that's all I'm seeing. I'm having trouble figuring out how town!Serp takes the infolynch angle - and I am playing from the position of you and moe are town. I mean, look at the top of this quoted post where you want people to care about your reads then when I do you seem like you can't be arsed to expound on them. (I'm honored that you think I would take that N0 risky shot if I was scum because I can tell you I've tried a couple times to think if I would be that bold/daring and I am not sure I would... I suppose just WIFOM but eh, don't want you to be lonely in here so giving you a little attention)
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297296#msg1297296
« Reply #417 on: May 25, 2020, 04:40:00 am »
Alright, I'll look up the references for you, mostly to satisfy your apparent curiosity

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1296985/#msg1296985
First, I lay off my initial instavote when I realize who you'd targetted

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297041/#msg1297041
Then I disagree with your torb reads

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297062/#msg1297062
Fate Egg explanation is revealed to me, I agree it makes sense-- but this doesn't mean you get off on the torb debate

(at some point my role is revealed, so there goes my silly plays like claiming psion based on knowing moe is deja)

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297132/#msg1297132
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297134/#msg1297134
You took the bait

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297186/#msg1297186
The post you were able to find yourself. This is probably my clearest post all game, an actual read list, so not sure why you'd need to ISO for it, especially when I explicitly name you & you should definitely be paying attention to reads from confirmed town. Like how do you miss this?

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297238/#msg1297238
Oh look, I'm having to point out to a player that the only person going after them is scummy

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297255/#msg1297255
"I agree with kaempf's logic re always using devour as fate egg"

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297297#msg1297297
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Alright, I'll look up the references for you, mostly to satisfy your apparent curiosity

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1296985/#msg1296985
First, I lay off my initial instavote when I realize who you'd targetted

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297041/#msg1297041
Then I disagree with your torb reads

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297062/#msg1297062
Fate Egg explanation is revealed to me, I agree it makes sense-- but this doesn't mean you get off on the torb debate

(at some point my role is revealed, so there goes my silly plays like claiming psion based on knowing moe is deja)

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297132/#msg1297132
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297134/#msg1297134
You took the bait

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297186/#msg1297186
The post you were able to find yourself. This is probably my clearest post all game, an actual read list, so not sure why you'd need to ISO for it, especially when I explicitly name you & you should definitely be paying attention to reads from confirmed town. Like how do you miss this?

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297238/#msg1297238
Oh look, I'm having to point out to a player that the only person going after them is scummy

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297255/#msg1297255
"I agree with kaempf's logic re always using devour as fate egg"
1. Hm, ok.
2. There's no way to know TorB is certainly town.
3. Ok.
4. What "bait"? You link to a post where I vote a high scumread of mine in a fairly thorough list of my reads. What bait? I didn't "take" anything.
5. I'm human - I missed it at first or at least forgot about it in the moment when trying to exchange real-time with you while I also build an updated read list. Mea culpa.
6. What? I think what you mean is you take it upon yourself to a length of attempting to tell another player whose alignment we don't know should just sheep your read on me. I give a pass because as confirmed town I agree you get certain leeway to parade a bit in this manner of directing players you think might be town to do things town!you are also doing. Being wrong about me is not a crime but it doesn't make you less wrong.
7. OK, let's try to make sure I'm understanding you here -- you're softing (why not just state it outright if you think it?) that you suspect Sub and I both are scum, then realize I'm voting and pushing/casing Sub --- you believe I am bussing a teammate. Yeah? It's ok, being wrong is not a crime but I'm not w/w with anybody. It DOES still make good sense for you to look deeper at your two scumreads when one of them is legit pushing/voting another of your reads (that is - do you really still think it is w/w or is one read stronger than the other, or does your mind change about one of them, etc.).

Good talk, really. Good to have a conf-town that is thread present and at least willing to engage in interactions, albeit from my seat it feels like you're only begrudgingly OK with being part of the widest town-read duos in the game right now.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297298#msg1297298
« Reply #419 on: May 25, 2020, 05:10:51 am »
rob77dp (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, serprex, shockcannon
Submachine (2) - Calindu, rob77dp
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Annele, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks


I must say I'm curious how rob will flip. We have plenty of interactions of players with him and I am very intrigued by how he went from the vote leader with many non-voters suspecting him to almost no one voting him. Additionally, the more I try to picture scenarios where andretimpa is mafia with different combinations of other mafia members, the more I think he is a guaranteed town. He was extremely close to being lynched, and even voted on Masterwalks who had 0 votes at the time instead of joining the submachine train to even the vote and keep himself alive. Additionally, the extension timer which also would have saved andretimpa was not voted on very quickly and the initial people who voted for an extension comprised mostly of the players who wanted to lynch andretimpa, which doesn't add up to him being the mafia.


I also have a hard time believing that town is good enough or that mafia is bad enough to come so close to losing any member on day 1. Additionally, to entertain TorB's idea that andre, kaempf, and rob are all mafia, it's almost unfathomable to me that 3/4 mafia would be leading votes for lynch on day 1. This could be a possibility if the mafia were voting each other to make it harder to track down all of them should one of them get lynched, yet we see none of these 3 voting on each other and we don't even see any of these 3 voting on the same player. Yet again, another piece of evidence that doesn't add up to the theory. I also have a hard time believing that TorB would be mafia with 3 other members to help guide his play and still present this theory. The most likely outcome of day 1 is a bunch of town accusing each other because of lack of info while the mafia gets to pick and choose where they enter and exit conversation.


Another interesting topic is Linkcat. He was the first to vote for rob and the first to vote for andre. Now that doesn't mean much, but the interactions with rob have been quite interesting, and will need to be explored further if rob flips mafia. Additionally, he has definitely placed himself in a position to control the flow of conversation and kaempfer even pointed this out earlier and called him out as being suspicious, to which he responded in a way that was very inadequate for me personally. Linkcat has also disregarded all my posts as irrelevant. He asks for scum reads and votes, yet when I offer that him, rob, and MW would be the most useful lynch targets for revealing things, this isn't even brought up. If someone else were to say this I can almost guarantee there would be several responses discussing this. Then when I make a post more in line with "proper play and meaningful discussion" and point out a noteworthy action by Annele this is seemingly rewarded as if I should explore this theory more and maybe tunnel on her. The funny thing is, Annele switching votes and making the comments she made is what makes me the most certain that she is town. I'm sure Linkcat will have some response as he always does as to how my arguments are either bad or irrelevant, but this section is mostly for myself, kaempf, and serprex as I believe they will actually listen to me and think about the idea of Linkcat being one of the major mafia suspects right now.



Now I'm going to give a list so everyone has something to work off when trying to read me, because I want people to listen to me when I say that we should figure out votes now and not at the deadline. Town is too prone to make mistakes and be at the mercy of mafia if we wait too long to vote. I wasn't going to vote this phase, but now that it has been extended and with everyone still keen on making a lynch, it's too risky to let this lynch go badly.



Likely town:

serprex
moehrpi
kaempfer13
andretimpa
TheonlyrealBeef
Annele


Unsure, need more time to consider:


Submachine
iancudorinmarian
Ge0metry v1.2
DoubleCapitals


Suspicious:


Linkcat
rob77dp
MasterWalks
Calindu
killsdazombies




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