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Who played the best mafia?

iancudorinmarian
2 (5.9%)
TheonlyrealBeef
3 (8.8%)
worldwideweb3
5 (14.7%)
Annele
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
1 (2.9%)
Calindu
0 (0%)
Linkcat
1 (2.9%)
moehrpi
0 (0%)
Submachine
13 (38.2%)
serprex
0 (0%)
MasterWalks
0 (0%)
andretimpa
1 (2.9%)
rob77dp
2 (5.9%)
shockcannon
1 (2.9%)
killsdazombies
4 (11.8%)
DoubleCapitals
0 (0%)
Coffeeditto
1 (2.9%)
Ge0metry v2.0
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 15

Voting closed: June 26, 2020, 09:57:32 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297213#msg1297213
« Reply #336 on: May 24, 2020, 06:20:33 pm »
My flip on shock and kae is a result of me rereading roles and which ones are faster. In fact, after getting a mod question answered, my town read on shock has lessened and my town read on kaempf has improved.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297214#msg1297214
« Reply #337 on: May 24, 2020, 06:21:14 pm »
It's called banter, rob, maybe you've heard of it?
If real life relationships are any indication for me, I'm doomed to lose in anything that boils down to bantering well...

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297215#msg1297215
« Reply #338 on: May 24, 2020, 06:22:40 pm »
torb: took heat for it, has made it clear he isn't voting, has still given info tho
moe: he's town, he can do whatever he wants
ian: freeze! yeah not sure on this one
kaemp: Also not sure about this one
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297216#msg1297216
« Reply #339 on: May 24, 2020, 06:23:40 pm »
Ge0, you're here, good.

Please address why you went from reading me / my N0 as towny to thinking I'm scum and voting me... holding that vote on me still now. I want to see inside your thought process that led to you making that read change on me.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297218#msg1297218
« Reply #340 on: May 24, 2020, 06:28:24 pm »
shock, I'm pretty sure I understood what you are trying to tell me before you made that post; i just dont want to make a big deal out of it unless i have to.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297219#msg1297219
« Reply #341 on: May 24, 2020, 06:30:53 pm »
kaempfer, welcome to "connecting with shock" I guess?

FYI, shock - I'm going to read every spoiler anybody makes... why wouldn't I? A spoiler possibly contains information or something to look into, I need information so don't expect me to avoid any sort of spoiler you give. ALso, seems odd you are hinting at thinking opening your spoilers is in some way alignment indicative??!
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297220#msg1297220
« Reply #342 on: May 24, 2020, 06:37:54 pm »
For your own sake and frankly ours too don't spend so much time on it xD. Summarise, tell us the most alarming things... 6 hours is kinda unhealthy for a children's card forum game
Before I compress my thougths, let me know which parts were more useful. Especially after this comment:

Sub's really grasping at like, a lot of things. Some of which I find largely insignificant and I feel he's swamping the conversation with

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297221#msg1297221
« Reply #343 on: May 24, 2020, 06:48:44 pm »
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Re: Warden
It's dangerous to rely too much on the cop. Players should be using everything at their disposal in order to gather information, especially their roles. If they had followed your advice, we'd have even less collective information than we already did with losing our cop. Dodging the Heal is not about mindgating, there's only a small subset of players with a reasonable chance to be targeted by both an Angel and the Nightkill, just choose someone else. Sitting back and hoping other roles will carry the game is not a great strategy. Voting data is a different beast than role usage, especially on Day 1. Warden isn't about blocking mafia, hard information is the important thing. Your comparison on priorities is not valid.

Re: kaempfer
He means in general, not this specific game.

Re: rob
That's true, he did not actually hint his action. Rob always gets on inactives, nothing out of the ordinary.

Re: w3
You can like someone and still laugh your ass of when they die. Pretty sure I've done that to you a couple times.

Re: rob again
I don't have any special knowledge. If you want his scum game, 61 and some game on MU I think.

Re: my comment on NK
I would definitely compliment myself if I was mafia, so I have no counter to this.

Re: Sub being salty about 61
Looks like I was wrong, this just made my day.

Re: 6 hour post on 15 pages
Don't hurt yourself, Sub.

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297222#msg1297222
« Reply #344 on: May 24, 2020, 06:49:45 pm »
aw being confirmed town is lonely, nobody cares about my reads now

oh well here they are

rip www3, coffee

confirmed serp, moe

v torb, masterwalks, geo

n+ shock, link, sub

n ian, ann, kdz, dc

n- cal, kae

w rob, timpa

People who talk about "genuineness" of posts lose credibility with me. In particular I didn't like kae's "Linkcat is sus" post. He'd probably be n for me if that post hadn't happened

I think rob's a scummy egg fwiw, reasons based on info outside of devour action. Basically we're positionally at odds, which means that if rob isn't scum then my reads are bad, so lynching him at least gets info on where my reads are

PS I won't be voting for extension, I enjoy time pressure

I didn't mention you because it's expected for confirmed town to post their reads. Good list, btw.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297223#msg1297223
« Reply #345 on: May 24, 2020, 06:50:33 pm »
Ge0, you're here, good.

Please address why you went from reading me / my N0 as towny to thinking I'm scum and voting me... holding that vote on me still now. I want to see inside your thought process that led to you making that read change on me.

I don't know if I have an answer that will fully satisfy you but here goes.

I do not think I am currently very good at the game. My lack of knowledge on both the players and the game means it is fairly hard to make reads and contribute meaningful content. This is info I knew would be true and possibly problematic before the game had even begun. Nevertheles, I attempted to contribute to the best of my abilities, particularly after being called out by a couple people.

My first attempt at contributing I did read you as slight town. I abstained from voting because at the time I didn't want to jump on a wagon. Link then mentioned that witholding my vote was the "scummiest stance I could take", so I went back and re-read some posts to see if I could find any logic for me to vote on.

As a reminder, here is the tally at the time, before I voted:
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rob77dp (2) - Linkcat, serprex
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
TheonlyrealBeef (1) - rob77dp
Submachine (1) - Calindu

After reading through things, I was unable to make any hard conclusions on scumreads and whatnot. I couldn't find a reason to add a vote for MW, torb, or sub. As stated in my reads post, I liked link and serp's logic. You were pointing fingers at people who no one else seemed to be pointing fingers at, and made a vote on torb. Others called you out on it for a bad read. You being a fate egg had not yet been explored. Does this all add up to me having a scumread on you? Not exactly. But it was at the time the strongest conclusion I had, in a time where I was being pressured to vote.

I hold the vote on you currently only because I don't know who to change my vote to and I don't want to withdraw my vote entirely.

Also I realize it may be frustrating as a vet to play with newer (read: weaker) players. I know I get frustrated in the games I play. So, apologies for potentially being a bad player.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297224#msg1297224
« Reply #346 on: May 24, 2020, 06:52:25 pm »
My flip on shock and kae is a result of me rereading roles and which ones are faster. In fact, after getting a mod question answered, my town read on shock has lessened and my town read on kaempf has improved.


Okay, this makes more sense. I had understood you meant you had 100% sure shock was town. Removing my vote from you.

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Sub's really grasping at like, a lot of things. Some of which I find largely insignificant and I feel he's swamping the conversation with

I told it ahead of time that it will be a wall of questions, rather than a wall of answers. Until then, I only know full scan.

Really hope pt 2 is better than pt 1, since this one just looks like you are trying to deflect conversation (the breadcrumbs part in shock's spoiler sounded borderline insane to me, for example)
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297225#msg1297225
« Reply #347 on: May 24, 2020, 06:52:55 pm »
And here, DC, this is for you after that iancu post.
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