Alright, after reading some of 68, I realized that there was a distinct lack of shitposts in this thread. Now that I've gotten a little of that out of my system, let's go over some stuff.
Alright time to explain my sub read:
- My confidence mostly came from him putting in way too much effort into investigating certain things. it kinda reminded me of that time that someone made sure to reverse google image search the photo of a keyboard of someone with a broken h key (I think) to make sure he wasnt lying about it and just grabbed a random image of the internet.
A mafia would know that a town player would never lie about this and thus not even bother with that kind of busy work, unless they were specifically aiming to be read that way. Looking back, Sub reported doing this moreso than actually post his full thought process, so I can't actually verify whether he really thought about all these things.
Still, on this forum its pretty much easier to just stay low and people usually dont pick up on these types of things anyway, so wasting precious time with these detailed examinations isn't really a viable strategy for scum to escape suspicion here (quite the opposite really) and leaves less time to communicate with team members, monitor how people view yourselves and who is easy to lynch right now and other stuff scum has to tend to.
In the same vein, his post panicking about dying n1 (which is sth scum doesnt have to worry about, so scum only ever does that speculating to be read that way)
I expect Sub (or rob for that matter) to be aware of that and not make some elaborate theater that drags a lot of attention to themselves as scum. I dont think that type of gambit has ever worked out in a forum mafia here, so i dont see why he would bother with acting. Occams razor says he's just town legitimately getting confused about some things and trying to look into everything he can.
This reads like you've never played as mafia before. It doesn't take that much extra time.
24 hour extension- kaempfer13
Not really necessary right now, we'll see where we're at closer to deadline.
FFS folks... I breadcrumbed my role in case I had to claim LATER, not because I wanted to do so D1. "Lunch" was a honest typo in N0, but having used fate and egg in subsequent posts whereas I pretty much NEVER use those words was on purpose. I am not going to be coming out here with any sort of admission of my shot being "wrong" or "bad" play because I don't think it was. It was an idea that didn't work out and that is as far as it should really go for now, given we have no idea in the long run how it may help / result in the game playing out.
If there are really some of you who just have to know what I was thinking, it is now easier for me to lay it out given I'm claiming Fate Egg. Read in bravado or self-importance or overthinking or egotistical or whatever you want, but the following is how I arrived at deciding to vig coffee N0. I get my role and am Oty N0 (great, what an awesome role that is even better the longer you hold it - but I have it _now_ and ONLY for N0 use or lose) from Fate Egg roll. Looking over the player list, I determine that there is a fair chance I may be a NK target N0 if certain other high profile or more active/"admired" (right word?) players are scum this game. Hence, I feel a fair chance that acting N0 is possibly one of my best chances to help town this game. It is not a secret nor a recent thing that I do not like low activity players. However, I know better than to snipe a player simply for LOW activity. So I start out thinking I want to snipe the scummiest poster N0 - problem quickly arises for me as I realize Elements mafia is not high activity in general, N0 is no real must to post a lot, and that in a role madness (not my favorite type...) game certain people might stay close to the vest N0 in order to avoid NK suspicion if they have a strong role (RIP www3). I then realize late-mid-ish N0 that coffee has not posted ANYTHING even once since signing up, is not signed in or active, was inactivity MK'd his previous mafia game a year ago, and from that I get a strong feeling that he is not going to be any kind of use this game if town and I have a chance N0 to bag a slacking scum. I am WELL AWARE that killing a town is not ideal but only HINDSIGHT tells me he was town - I saw it as a chance to be a benefit to town...
Whoever it was (Cal) that was scumreading me and made a statement about them seeing me as scummy for a "bad play" and "policy" is a duo of very bad terrible no good reasons to ever scumread or vote/lynch anyone. So that can just be knocked off now - the policy lynch, bad play lynch (in this case I will strongly argue - actually, I already have argued it this way - it was not a "bad play" but rather a bad result), info lynch, etc. is just so squarely a bad way to try to win if you're town and is a nice way to push mislynches if you're scum.
I believe the Deja claim. Serp- breadcrumbing is not using codes or invisitext etc... it is using regular language or aspects of regular posts than can be played by all players within the game to leave clues or hints or disguise info than can be further clarified later for it's additional meaning (but was understood and readable at the original time too).
This is a bit echoing a sentiment posted already - I think by kaempfer - but as I was going about my day today I was ruminating on this game... and having trouble figuring out what felt different about Link. I realized it seemed like he was a bit less concerned with what I _recall_ him liking to do which is find some town reads, find some scumreads, build a POE, and push around on the remaining set of players to get them to post and be active enough that he can read them into those three categories. However, this game it feels a lot more like he is simply moving around looking for who to lynch moreso than the above strategy. This latter is a scum-tactic more than not. A HUGE caveat here is that Link is a notoriously difficult read for me, and we have a fairly colorful history of interactions in games we both participate. When I saw kaempfer essentially have a similar read on Link I had a little bell ring in my head that maybe my thought was on to something. But even just typing through this I recall a few role madness or role-heavy setups I have played in with and read real-time on Link vacillating around in the POE while being town. This is probably my longest ever slight read on a player... but for now Link has a wolfy vibe for me so far but sadly I feel as several have stated (Sub, myself, Link?) already that Link is still in range of both his town and scum ranges.
A follow-up post will attempt to gather my thoughts on reads/slots so far this game...
Great, it was a good play, and you should have expected you would have to claim, cause it wasn't a good play without the Fate Egg. Case closed, moving on.
You might want to take a look back at my ISO, buddy. I've been doing those things all game, and I haven't been moving around, I've only been on you up until now.
Your v reads are decent, but the rest of your readslist is mostly shit. It's very convenient that your top scumread is the guy who already had 2 votes on him, and someone that mafia wouldn't want sticking around. Tell me, rob, how do you feel about an Annele lynch today?
You guys left out Ge0's vote, btw.
rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
Annele (1) - Linkcat
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