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Who played the best mafia?

iancudorinmarian
2 (5.9%)
TheonlyrealBeef
3 (8.8%)
worldwideweb3
5 (14.7%)
Annele
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
1 (2.9%)
Calindu
0 (0%)
Linkcat
1 (2.9%)
moehrpi
0 (0%)
Submachine
13 (38.2%)
serprex
0 (0%)
MasterWalks
0 (0%)
andretimpa
1 (2.9%)
rob77dp
2 (5.9%)
shockcannon
1 (2.9%)
killsdazombies
4 (11.8%)
DoubleCapitals
0 (0%)
Coffeeditto
1 (2.9%)
Ge0metry v2.0
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 15

Voting closed: June 26, 2020, 09:57:32 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1298945#msg1298945
« Reply #1872 on: June 07, 2020, 04:03:25 am »
If Annele flips scum, then we are ahead 7-2 and at most I think lose ONE town tonight and come out ahead 6-2 next day phase. I mean the world is our oyster at that point. In that world, either you or Sub survive the night and get to dragonfly a suspect or possible target for town info. I get a chance to probably find SOME kind of useful action for my role. I'm not sure what you want from me but is the best I can do off the cuff.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1298946#msg1298946
« Reply #1873 on: June 07, 2020, 04:04:50 am »

if shock is mafia, the mafia team will probably just let him play himself. They might proof read his posts but anyone who knows shock would know him being just natural him is the least (but also most) sus way for him to play. I dont really believe everything he says and im probably being dumb by being down for a sketchy info lynch, but we need a gameplan if we want any hopes of winning and lynching annele will not get us a gamplan especially if she flips mafia (which is what we are hoping for right?)

give me step by step what we do until end of game if annele flips mafia.
If annele flips mafia we would probably flip shock anyway. Shock said he knew she was town, and has been defending her at every turn. Theyre locked together in my mind at this point.

Then we would probably flip some PoE people. Timpa Cali Geo all come to mind

kdz - what on earth would a scum!shock be doing with this choice of thunderdome and timing? There are enough players in most people's POE's that scum!shock _should_ have no reason for this ridiculous play/push. So from my perspective the fact he is making the push and I think that he is town doing it ---- well, you can understand my frantic nature of trying to get people to think elsewhere (that is, a rob-shock thunderdome portends almost certain disaster - town loss).
Thats why im inclined to believe shock. The scenario where shock is mafia would require his n2 role to be toadfish for him to be certain of the results of his play, but he could be rolling the dice and hope that your death fuels fire elsewhere after his death.

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1298947#msg1298947
« Reply #1874 on: June 07, 2020, 04:10:22 am »
Do we all agree though that the person who immaterialled serp has to be one of Timpa/Shock/Rob though?

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1298948#msg1298948
« Reply #1875 on: June 07, 2020, 04:12:05 am »
Oh just remembered, you're supposedly (and very believably so) Vulture-->Golden (kdz) ---- MW, you should realistically have almost NO FEAR of dying tonight. Either that or scum let's the Golden live and have a chance to ping another red peek.

Of course, the only way to be fairly sure that at least one of MW / kdz survives tonight is to NOT let a possibly scum!Oty get a chance to eat one of you... hmmm.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1298949#msg1298949
« Reply #1876 on: June 07, 2020, 04:14:04 am »
Do we all agree though that the person who immaterialled serp has to be one of Timpa/Shock/Rob though?
kdz - for my input... if it ISN'T in that trio then there is someone in this game who is SUPERBLY faking their claim. From my perspective, I can view it even more finitely as between timpa/shock. Shock's N1 of moe that he never previously outted is quite sus... but timpa's TOTAL lack of claiming or informing the thread about ANYTHING is also very very sus. No idea why anyone wouuld think I"m the most likely in that trio given how I've honestly played and given out ALL my night actions as they were done.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1298950#msg1298950
« Reply #1877 on: June 07, 2020, 04:18:32 am »
Ive come to terms with my shallow grave rob, I hope you have too.

Now, thats just it. If annele wasn't unknown i'd have voted on you no problem Rob, I just want us to be aware of our chips and where the lay. Its all about if Annele/Shock share a role. If theyre V a free gunshot is an invaluable tool, if they aren't well. Things stop looking so pretty.

Do we all agree though that the person who immaterialled serp has to be one of Timpa/Shock/Rob though?
kdz - for my input... if it ISN'T in that trio then there is someone in this game who is SUPERBLY faking their claim. From my perspective, I can view it even more finitely as between timpa/shock. Shock's N1 of moe that he never previously outted is quite sus... but timpa's TOTAL lack of claiming or informing the thread about ANYTHING is also very very sus. No idea why anyone wouuld think I"m the most likely in that trio given how I've honestly played and given out ALL my night actions as they were done.
Obviously you know your actions, but I'm just speaking strictly mechanically, these are the only suspects. Thats assuming either you or shock is lying

And linkcat did ask for psion to check on moe/serp "Just in case" to avoid two mafia becoming conf town.

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1298951#msg1298951
« Reply #1878 on: June 07, 2020, 04:23:03 am »
Ive come to terms with my shallow grave rob, I hope you have too.

Now, thats just it. If annele wasn't unknown i'd have voted on you no problem Rob, I just want us to be aware of our chips and where the lay. Its all about if Annele/Shock share a role. If theyre V a free gunshot is an invaluable tool, if they aren't well. Things stop looking so pretty.

Do we all agree though that the person who immaterialled serp has to be one of Timpa/Shock/Rob though?
kdz - for my input... if it ISN'T in that trio then there is someone in this game who is SUPERBLY faking their claim. From my perspective, I can view it even more finitely as between timpa/shock. Shock's N1 of moe that he never previously outted is quite sus... but timpa's TOTAL lack of claiming or informing the thread about ANYTHING is also very very sus. No idea why anyone wouuld think I"m the most likely in that trio given how I've honestly played and given out ALL my night actions as they were done.
Obviously you know your actions, but I'm just speaking strictly mechanically, these are the only suspects. Thats assuming either you or shock is lying

And linkcat did ask for psion to check on moe/serp "Just in case" to avoid two mafia becoming conf town.
And as per my town-read on Link at the time, I did my duty in using my shite Egg draw of Psion that night to target serp. I clearly came forward the next day with that action. Shock seems to possibly have done likewise (that is, also targeted one of serp/moe with Psion on N1) but he lies about other things then several phases "comes clean" about having Psion'd the OTHER 'non-bad-publicity-drawing' piece of the deja vu pair... like how does that make it more likely I'm the liar? I don't get it (obviously I know my truth -but even trying to put myself in others' shoes I don't see how my side of things is less believable as truth???).
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1298952#msg1298952
« Reply #1879 on: June 07, 2020, 04:28:50 am »
Rob making it seem so important to Kill Annele now because she could eat a second town. In reality, he just doesn’t want to deal with a scenario where town either gets GN off or devour off.


Also why do you think rob keeps talking about me being town? Every other town member in the past put me as mafia lean for my actions and would do the same here, yet rob writes it off as a bad town play because he knows if he gets in a pissing match with me, one of us is going to get lynched today. But he doesn’t want that to happen. He wants Annele to die today so mafia doesn’t have to deal with kdz and Annele.


Almost everyone else has come to terms that either rob or I is mafia, but rob keeeps trying to push the idea that we’re both town. He wants Annele dead now. Don’t give it to him. DONT FORGET THAT IAN VOTED ANNELE WITH INTENT TO KILL WHEN HE HAD THE OPTION OF GOING FOR ANDRE AND LINKCAT INSTEAD.


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Yes, my opinion has changed. Don’t eat Calindu. I did originally think calindu was mafia but after I came to the realization that rob has to be the mafia Anubis, my entire read list changed and I realized that him and kaempf are actually the mafia, which then clears Calindu. Obviously you decide for yourself who to eat. You can even eat me, but keep in my mind I’m literally the only one who has tried to keep you alive this entire game. I would appreciate some help voting rob for today though and we can figure out food devour targets later.
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« Reply #1880 on: June 07, 2020, 04:32:51 am »
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That would be because I'm trying to play with skill and keep solving and considering all possible variable that make sense. Unfortunately for me, that means a world where you are likely misguided town. So yeah, I'm preferring a world where we don't thunderdome because that  - as explained by both kdz and myself (and MW?) - is a scenario where town is auto-screwed and basically has lost. I will not lose that way. So I'm digging deep to find a way to keep my  head on straight and realize that PROBABLY the way you're playing is town!shock. REgrettably so, but hey I have to try to work with those that I think are aligned with me even when they refuse or just keep pushing a terrible situation.
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« Reply #1881 on: June 07, 2020, 04:51:29 am »
Rob making it seem so important to Kill Annele now because she could eat a second town. In reality, he just doesn’t want to deal with a scenario where town either gets GN off or devour off.


Also why do you think rob keeps talking about me being town? Every other town member in the past put me as mafia lean for my actions and would do the same here, yet rob writes it off as a bad town play because he knows if he gets in a pissing match with me, one of us is going to get lynched today. But he doesn’t want that to happen. He wants Annele to die today so mafia doesn’t have to deal with kdz and Annele.


The thing I dislike about shock, is they seem to post whatever I'm thinking about. Its like I'm living in the matrix and shock has a direct line to my brain.

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1298955#msg1298955
« Reply #1882 on: June 07, 2020, 05:24:13 am »
@MW, this is directly at you because I'm almost certain you're town.

I think our safest play is to flip shock. Not because I think shock is mafia, but because I think it hedges our bets against annele as much as we reasonably can without outright killing annele. I believe shock is town, if not purely because they are in my head and I can see myself making all of theirs plays so far as a town. But, if I'm drinking the koolaid and shock is mafia, then annele gets a free kill and we enter a risky zone.

I'm asking you, do we make the risky play that can outright win us the game and kill rob (or cause us to potentially outright lose to a wombo combo) or do we kill shock and take a safe bet to secure annele.

This assumes Shock/Annele are W/W or V/V ofc, and I strongly believe they share alignment.

I would also like to take a moment to point out this post.
Oh just remembered, you're supposedly (and very believably so) Vulture-->Golden (kdz) ---- MW, you should realistically have almost NO FEAR of dying tonight. Either that or scum let's the Golden live and have a chance to ping another red peek.

Of course, the only way to be fairly sure that at least one of MW / kdz survives tonight is to NOT let a possibly scum!Oty get a chance to eat one of you... hmmm.
This right here out of everything posted makes me the most nervous of rob. Its a threat, an ATE and a deflection all in one. Rob takes a shot at my credibility, tries to put the fear of dying into both of us (suggesting if we let annele live we will both die, which i admit is a real risk), and suggests we move onto annele instead.

It should be noted, he is right a little bit. Unless the mafia try to make a play and lynch me tomorrow, you are almost certainly safe tonight MW, aside from annele. But do we, and more importantly, do you, believe annele is mafia?

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MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp

rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
Annele (1) - Linkcat


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
adrenatimpa (1) - Linkcat


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Annele, MasterWalks


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Annele, MasterWalks, DoubleCapitals


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Annele, MasterWalks, DoubleCapitals
MasterWalks(1) - andretimpa


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Annele, DoubleCapitals
MasterWalks(1) - andretimpa
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Submachine (2) - Calindu, rob77dp
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Annele, DoubleCapitals
MasterWalks(1) - andretimpa
kaempfer13 (2) - MasterWalks, serprex


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Submachine (2) - Calindu, rob77dp
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Annele, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (2) - MasterWalks, serprex


rob77dp (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, serprex, shockcannon
Submachine (1) - Calindu
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Annele, rob77dp
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks


rob77dp (4) - Ge0metry v1.2, serprex, shockcannon, Annele
Submachine (1) - Calindu
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, rob77dp
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks


rob77dp (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, serprex, shockcannon
Submachine (1) - Calindu
andretimpa (2) - Linkcat, rob77dp
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (1) - Annele


rob77dp (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, serprex, shockcannon
Submachine (1) - Calindu
andretimpa (2) - Linkcat, rob77dp
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13


rob77dp (2) - serprex, shockcannon
Submachine (1) - Calindu
andretimpa (2) - Linkcat, rob77dp
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2


rob77dp (2) - serprex, shockcannon
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, rob77dp, Calindu
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, rob77dp, Calindu
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, rob77dp, Calindu, shockcannon
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Calindu, shockcannon
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, rob77dp


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (2) - Linkcat, Calindu
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, rob77dp, shockcannon


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, rob77dp, Calindu, shockcannon
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13,
Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks

rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (2) - Linkcat, Calindu
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, rob77dp, shockcannon
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, shockcannon
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks

rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon, moehrpi
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks

rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon, moehrpi
Linkcat (3) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (4) - Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon, moehrpi
Linkcat (4) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, Linkcat
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon, moehrpi
Linkcat (3) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks
Annele (1) - Ge0metry

andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon, moehrpi
Linkcat (4) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, moehrpi
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, moehrpi, Submachine
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, moehrpi, Submachine
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, rob77dp


andretimpa (3) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, rob77dp, Linkcat
serprex (1) - iancudorinmarian


andretimpa (4) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, rob77dp
serprex (1) - iancudorinmarian

andretimpa (4) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian


andretimpa (5) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, iancudorinmarian


andretimpa (5) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, iancudorinmarian

andretimpa (6) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (5) - Calindu, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian
Linkcat (6) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (6) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian
Linkcat (6) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon, andretimpa
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (5) - Calindu, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian
Linkcat (7) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi, andretimpa
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (5) - Calindu, Submachine, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian, MasterWalks
Linkcat (7) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi, andretimpa
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, Linkcat


andretimpa (4) - Calindu, Submachine, rob77dp, MasterWalks
Linkcat (6) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi, andretimpa
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, iancudorinmarian

andretimpa (3) - Calindu, Submachine, rob77dp,
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi
Annele (4) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, andretimpa, iancu
DC (1) - MasterWalks


andretimpa (4) - Calindu, Submachine, rob77dp, MasterWalks
Linkcat (4) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, moehrpi
Annele (4) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, andretimpa, iancu


andretimpa (3) - Calindu, Submachine, MasterWalks
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi
Annele (5) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, andretimpa, iancudorinmarian, rob77dp

Sub honorary 6th vote on Annele



Spoiler for Day2:
Annele (1) - rob7dp
Calindu (1) - serprex


Annele (1) - rob7dp
kaempfer13 (1) - serprex


Annele (1) - rob7dp
kaempfer13 (1) - serprex
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks

Annele (1) - rob7dp
kaempfer13 (3) - serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks

Annele (2) - rob77dp, Linkcat
kaempfer13 (4) - serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Ge0metry v1.2
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks


Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (4) - serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Ge0metry v1.2
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks


Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (5) - serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks


Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (1) - serprex


Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (3) - serprex, shockcannon, Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (3) - serprex, shockcannon, Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks
Linkcat (3) - serprex, shockcannon, Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (7) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, serprex
Linkcat (1) - Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (8) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, serprex, killsdazombies
Linkcat (1) - Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (9) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, serprex, killsdazombies, Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (8) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, serprex, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (1) - TheonlyrealBeef


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (7) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex


Annele (3) -  Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (7) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, rob77dp


Annele (3) -  Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (6) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, MasterWalks, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, rob77dp, shockcannon, Calindu


Annele (3) -  Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (5) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, MasterWalks, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu
Calindu (1) - rob77dp


Annele (3) -  Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (4) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, MasterWalks, Annele
Linkcat (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu
Calindu (1) - rob77dp


Annele (3) -  Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (4) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, MasterWalks, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (1) - rob77dp


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (4) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, MasterWalks, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (2) - rob77dp, Linkcat


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (6) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, MasterWalks
Calindu (2) - rob77dp, Linkcat


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (6) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, MasterWalks
Calindu (2) - rob77dp, Linkcat
serpex(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks
serpex(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (3) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (5) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (3) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (5) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (3) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (6) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, andretimpa
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (4) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, serprex
Calindu (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, TheonlyrealBeef
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (3) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (6) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, andretimpa
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (5) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef
Calindu (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, andretimpa
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (6) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, Killsdazombies
Calindu (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, andretimpa




Spoiler for Day3:

killsdazombies (1) - Submachine
shockcannon (1) - serprex


killsdazombies (2) - Submachine, DoubleCapitals
shockcannon (1) - serprex


killsdazombies (2) - Submachine, DoubleCapitals
Ge0metry v1.2 (1) - serprex


killsdazombies (2) - Submachine, DoubleCapitals
Ge0metry v1.2 (2) - serprex, rob77dp


killsdazombies (2) - Submachine, DoubleCapitals
Ge0metry v1.2 (2) - serprex, rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2

killsdazombies (2) - Submachine, DoubleCapitals
Ge0metry v1.2 (3) - serprex, rob77dp, killsdazombies
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2


killsdazombies (1) - Submachine,
Ge0metry v1.2 (4) - serprex, rob77dp, killsdazombies, DoubleCapitals
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2

killsdazombies (1) - Submachine,
Ge0metry v1.2 (4) - serprex, rob77dp, killsdazombies, DoubleCapitals
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Annele (1) - iancudorinmarian


killsdazombies (2) - Submachine, MasterWalks
Ge0metry v1.2 (4) - serprex, rob77dp, killsdazombies, DoubleCapitals
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Annele (1) - iancudorinmarian


killsdazombies (2) - Submachine, MasterWalks
Ge0metry v1.2 (3) - rob77dp, killsdazombies, DoubleCapitals
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Annele (2) - iancudorinmarian, serprex


killsdazombies (3) - Submachine, MasterWalks, serprex
Ge0metry v1.2 (3) - rob77dp, killsdazombies, DoubleCapitals
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2

killsdazombies (3) - Submachine, MasterWalks, serprex
Ge0metry v1.2 (2) - rob77dp, DoubleCapitals
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (1) - Killsdazombies


killsdazombies (3) - Submachine, MasterWalks, serprex
Ge0metry v1.2 (1) - rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (1) - Killsdazombies
Annele (1) - DoubleCapitals


killsdazombies (2) - Submachine, serprex
Ge0metry v1.2 (1) - rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (2) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks
Annele (1) - DoubleCapitals


killsdazombies (4) - Submachine, serprex, iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals
Ge0metry v1.2 (1) - rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (3) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, Calindu


killsdazombies (3) - serprex, iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals
Ge0metry v1.2 (1) - rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (3) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, Calindu


killsdazombies (4) - serprex, iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele
Ge0metry v1.2 (1) - rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (3) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, Calindu


killsdazombies (6) - serprex, iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, Calindu, kaempfer13
Ge0metry v1.2 (1) - rob77dp
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (2) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks


killsdazombies (5) - serprex, iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, Calindu
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (3) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, rob77dp


killsdazombies (7) - serprex, iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, Calindu, kaempfer13, andretimpa
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (3) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, rob77dp


killsdazombies (7) - serprex, iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, Calindu, kaempfer13, andretimpa
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (4) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, rob77dp, shockcannon


killsdazombies (6) - serprex, iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, kaempfer13, andretimpa
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (4) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, rob77dp, Calindu


killsdazombies (5) - iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, kaempfer13, andretimpa
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (5) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, rob77dp, Calindu, serprex


killsdazombies (4) - iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, andretimpa
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (7) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, shockcannon, rob77dp, Calindu, serprex, kaempfer13



killsdazombies (3) - iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (8) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, rob77dp, shockcannon, Calindu, serprex, kaempfer13, andretimpa




Kaes lynch log offers us a lot, it shows ian busing the hell out of annele, but that could just be a seed sown for doubt later if ian gets caught or annele flips mafia. The same is true for timpa, but I doubt timpa has a kill role. I think its on us to push one way or another, as you are the conf town, and I'm a suspect conf town (Whatever, idk how to describe it. I know I'm town, but I understand if theres still lingering doubts about my alignment, despite the corpse under my belt.)

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1298956#msg1298956
« Reply #1883 on: June 07, 2020, 05:25:20 am »
@rob

This is where I crumbed my role (note that I left N1 uncapitalized)

@kaemp

At last some activity in this thread. Sorry for just being over there, this has been very low on my priorities these last days. Here's a detail you forgot: since rob targeted serp in n1 he could also have been the anubis.

I didn't target serp because I can't target anyone, I'm a phoenix. Also note that this was made before shock's wall of text, so the only world where this was made preemptively is one where we are w/w, which I already argued against in my previous post.

The way I see it there is 1 mafia between you and shock (echoing everyone, but that's just POE)
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