Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa

[rob77dp]

Seems to me he targeted iancu. Right? So I am backing off my "MW lying ITT" statement I guess, for now.

Ian - this is seriously your chance to lolcat if you're outted and caught. It feels great, trust me, I've done it. It is in your best interest honestly. Unless you're town then FFS keep fighting and clear this thing up for us today.

We vote whomever MW targetted

[MasterWalks]

Wait people think im lying?

I targetted iancu because i scum read him. read my last scum reads. He was targetted by kdz, kdz even confirmed that. How could i be lying?

I asked about the being able to target him both as a way to see if kdz is anubis and as a way to cover my request in tmi.



After we lynch ian or kdz, i want to lynch kaempf

[Calindu]

The way I see it, MW's ability failed and asked to see what protected ian from his ability.
If something like a FFQ failed to target ian, that means he was protected by Anubis.

This still stands, we need MW to tell us if his ability failed or not, that's the missing piece. If his ability failed, then ian is either immaterial (through mafia Seraph), or he's telling the truth. And in both cases, kdz's ability couldn't have gone through, so he's lying if that's the case.

[MasterWalks]

My ability did not fail. Otherwise i would not have known kdz targeted iancu

[Calindu]

My ability did not fail. Otherwise i would not have known kdz targeted iancu

That's enough for me. I thought your ability failed and wanted to check what actually stopped it from working.

killsdazombies (6) - serprex, iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, kaempfer13, andretimpa
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (4) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, rob77dp, Calindu

[serprex]

Poor ian, outed by simple mechanical failure. Time for him to tinfoil about MW/kdz working together

killsdazombies (5) - iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, kaempfer13, andretimpa
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (5) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, rob77dp, Calindu, serprex

[killsdazombies]

@cali, you missed shocks vote

and also @serp

killsdazombies (5) - iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, kaempfer13, andretimpa
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (6) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, rob77dp, shockcannon, Calindu, serprex

[kaempfer13]

killsdazombies (4) - iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, andretimpa
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (7) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, shockcannon, rob77dp, Calindu, serprex, kaempfer13
Either ian is scum or both mw and kdz are. Going with the pessimistic approach

[Submachine]

Sub what are you dancing around about again... you're the only one without your vote somewhere. This caused undue problems and NL on Day 1, and was mildly bothersome on Day 2 --- what are you up to on that??

Yes, sorry. Thinking about net benefit.

Kdz/ian not w/w. I saw it mentioned that ian/Annele not w/w either (I think rob said this). Assuming that to be true, for the sake of a plan, let's check the worst case scenarios for each option:

- If ian flips town, Annele could devour kdz, but if Annele is mafia, (worst case scenario) she may devour another Town instead. Because of the risk, DC would still need to flay Annele. Result: -1 town, no maf killed during night.
- If kdz flips town, Annele could devour ian. With the initial assumption of ian/Anne not w/w, Anne is town and ian is mafia, in which case, Annele would have no problem eating ian. Result: -1 town, -1 maf.

If I follow my gut though, I would believe kdz more than ian, because of the principle I set for myself at the beginning of the game:

Focus on how much the others try to solve, and in the end, put a higher Town lean on people with higher solve rate

Rob, I am still thinking, even though this is only a 50-50 choice.

[Submachine]

I targetted iancu because i scum read him. read my last scum reads. He was targetted by kdz, kdz even confirmed that. How could i be lying?

Okay, I haven't seen this. This changes everything.

Put my vote on ian.

[rob77dp]

Can we at least also get the right vote order? Before shock tries to clamor for cred for being only behind the cop-claiming-kdz (likely town) and the dragonfly-watcher-closer-MW (likely town) on the likely-scum!iancu wagon?

killsdazombies (4) - iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele, andretimpa
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (7) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, rob77dp, shockcannon, Calindu, serprex, kaempfer13

/hope-this-is-right-though-too

[andretimpa]

Thanks MW

killsdazombies (3) - iancudorinmarian, DoubleCapitals, Annele
Calindu (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
iancudorinmarian (8) - Killsdazombies, MasterWalks, rob77dp, shockcannon, Calindu, serprex, kaempfer13, andretimpa