Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa

[rob77dp]

Spoiler for I spent time working all this up... thinking it would be a stronger scum-read on Cal:

andretimpa (3) - Calindu, Submachine, MasterWalks
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi
Annele (5) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, andretimpa, iancudorinmarian, rob77dp
*abstention* (3) - DC, TorB, kdz

Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (6) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, Killsdazombies
Calindu (5) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, andretimpa, Submachine

Here's how I think I need to proceed with solving during Day 3... with the above green names "presumed"/lock town, and non-green/others as simply "in my POE".

If Cal is mafia, then there is almost SURELY at least 1 or 2 mafia other than Cal (in this scenario) on Link's wagon, right?? That is, surely Cal wasn't left all to himself by his teammates to self-pres hanging in the breeze? And early in the game you rarely see scum bus each other because - well, it is hard to really hope to win as mafia when you lynch or aid in lynching your own by voting them. If Cal is mafia then ANY mafia, even if green here, sitting on him at this final vote tally from Day 2 is walking a VERY VERY thin line unnecessarily as I see it.

Spoiler for Only to realize it makes it less likely Cal is scum when I ISO his last night and partial-day of posts:

nothing in here

Then serp posts and I find myself nodding heavily with it.

[serprex]

Is it time to unleash phase 3 of my master plan?

Spoiler for nothing here, move on:

The part where someone interrupts DC & Annele targets you, causing us to bucket her as confirmed town?

Might make sense to get rid of Annele today, rather get devour off the table even though Annele's my weakest read

[rob77dp]

serp, your grouping seems very unstable if you look at the hectic EOD1 and the wagons... that was serious risk most of the team on Annele being lynched there with some of them on her wagon... no??

[serprex]

Geo parked on her for whatever reason way early on. Maybe trying to cover tracks. Wasn't around for EOD madness

[killsdazombies]

Spoiler for Lynchlog:

Spoiler for Day1:

rob77dp (1) - serprex


iancudorinmarian (1) - serprex


iancudorinmarian (1) - serprex
Sub (1) - rob77dp

iancudorinmarian (1) - serprex
Sub (1) - rob77dp
rob77dp (1) - Linkcat
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals


iancudorinmarian (1) - serprex
rob77dp (1) - Linkcat
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
TheonlyrealBeef (1) - rob77dp


rob77dp (2) - Linkcat, serprex
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
TheonlyrealBeef (1) - rob77dp

rob77dp (3) - Linkcat, serprex, Ge0metry v1.2
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
TheonlyrealBeef (1) - rob77dp
Submachine (1) - Calindu


rob77dp (1) - Linkcat
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
TheonlyrealBeef (1) - rob77dp
Submachine (2) - Calindu, serprex


rob77dp (1) - Linkcat
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp

rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
Annele (1) - Linkcat


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
adrenatimpa (1) - Linkcat


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
MasterWalks (1) - DoubleCapitals
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Annele, MasterWalks


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Annele, MasterWalks, DoubleCapitals


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Annele, MasterWalks, DoubleCapitals
MasterWalks(1) - andretimpa


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Submachine (3) - Calindu, serprex, rob77dp
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Annele, DoubleCapitals
MasterWalks(1) - andretimpa
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Submachine (2) - Calindu, rob77dp
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Annele, DoubleCapitals
MasterWalks(1) - andretimpa
kaempfer13 (2) - MasterWalks, serprex


rob77dp (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
Submachine (2) - Calindu, rob77dp
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Annele, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (2) - MasterWalks, serprex


rob77dp (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, serprex, shockcannon
Submachine (1) - Calindu
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Annele, rob77dp
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks


rob77dp (4) - Ge0metry v1.2, serprex, shockcannon, Annele
Submachine (1) - Calindu
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, rob77dp
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks


rob77dp (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, serprex, shockcannon
Submachine (1) - Calindu
andretimpa (2) - Linkcat, rob77dp
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (1) - Annele


rob77dp (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, serprex, shockcannon
Submachine (1) - Calindu
andretimpa (2) - Linkcat, rob77dp
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13


rob77dp (2) - serprex, shockcannon
Submachine (1) - Calindu
andretimpa (2) - Linkcat, rob77dp
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2


rob77dp (2) - serprex, shockcannon
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, rob77dp, Calindu
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, rob77dp, Calindu
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, rob77dp, Calindu, shockcannon
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Calindu, shockcannon
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, rob77dp


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (2) - Linkcat, Calindu
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, rob77dp, shockcannon


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, rob77dp, Calindu, shockcannon
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13,
Annele (1) - Ge0metry v1.2
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks

rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (2) - Linkcat, Calindu
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, rob77dp, shockcannon
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, shockcannon
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks

rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon, moehrpi
Linkcat (2) - Annele, kaempfer13
Annele (1) - Ge0metry
shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks

rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon, moehrpi
Linkcat (3) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (4) - Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon, moehrpi
Linkcat (4) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, Linkcat
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


rob77dp (1) - serprex
andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon, moehrpi
Linkcat (3) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks
Annele (1) - Ge0metry

andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, shockcannon, moehrpi
Linkcat (4) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, moehrpi
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, moehrpi, Submachine
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (5) - Linkcat, Calindu, rob77dp, moehrpi, Submachine
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, rob77dp


andretimpa (3) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, rob77dp, Linkcat
serprex (1) - iancudorinmarian


andretimpa (4) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, rob77dp
serprex (1) - iancudorinmarian

andretimpa (4) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian


andretimpa (5) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, iancudorinmarian


andretimpa (5) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, iancudorinmarian

andretimpa (6) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (5) - Calindu, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian
Linkcat (6) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (6) - Calindu, moehrpi, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian
Linkcat (6) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon, andretimpa
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (5) - Calindu, Submachine, Linkcat, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian
Linkcat (7) - Annele, kaempfer13, MasterWalks, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi, andretimpa
Annele (1) - Ge0metry


andretimpa (5) - Calindu, Submachine, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian, MasterWalks
Linkcat (7) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi, andretimpa
Annele (2) - Ge0metry, Linkcat


andretimpa (4) - Calindu, Submachine, rob77dp, MasterWalks
Linkcat (6) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi, andretimpa
Annele (3) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, iancudorinmarian

andretimpa (3) - Calindu, Submachine, rob77dp,
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi
Annele (4) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, andretimpa, iancu
DC (1) - MasterWalks


andretimpa (4) - Calindu, Submachine, rob77dp, MasterWalks
Linkcat (4) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, moehrpi
Annele (4) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, andretimpa, iancu


andretimpa (3) - Calindu, Submachine, MasterWalks
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi
Annele (5) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, andretimpa, iancudorinmarian, rob77dp

Sub honorary 6th vote on Annele

Spoiler for Day2:

Annele (1) - rob7dp
Calindu (1) - serprex


Annele (1) - rob7dp
kaempfer13 (1) - serprex


Annele (1) - rob7dp
kaempfer13 (1) - serprex
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks

Annele (1) - rob7dp
kaempfer13 (3) - serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks

Annele (2) - rob77dp, Linkcat
kaempfer13 (4) - serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Ge0metry v1.2
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks


Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (4) - serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Ge0metry v1.2
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks


Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (5) - serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks


Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (1) - serprex


Annele (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals
kaempfer13 (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (3) - serprex, shockcannon, Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
Linkcat (3) - serprex, shockcannon, Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks
Linkcat (3) - serprex, shockcannon, Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (7) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, serprex
Linkcat (1) - Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (8) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, serprex, killsdazombies
Linkcat (1) - Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (9) - TheonlyrealBeef, Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, serprex, killsdazombies, Annele


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (8) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, serprex, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (1) - TheonlyrealBeef


Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (7) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex


Annele (3) -  Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (7) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, rob77dp


Annele (3) -  Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (6) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, MasterWalks, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, rob77dp, shockcannon, Calindu


Annele (3) -  Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (5) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, MasterWalks, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu
Calindu (1) - rob77dp


Annele (3) -  Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (4) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, MasterWalks, Annele
Linkcat (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu
Calindu (1) - rob77dp


Annele (3) -  Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (4) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, MasterWalks, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (1) - rob77dp


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (4) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, MasterWalks, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (2) - rob77dp, Linkcat


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (6) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, MasterWalks
Calindu (2) - rob77dp, Linkcat


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (6) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, MasterWalks
Calindu (2) - rob77dp, Linkcat
serpex(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks
serpex(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (5) - TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (3) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (3) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Annele
Linkcat (3) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (5) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (3) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (5) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (3) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (6) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, andretimpa
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (4) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, serprex
Calindu (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, TheonlyrealBeef
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (3) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (6) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, andretimpa
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (5) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef
Calindu (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, andretimpa
Shockcannon(1) - killsdazombies


Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (6) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, Killsdazombies
Calindu (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, andretimpa

I'm just going to move this back up here while we discuss EoD stuff.

I find myself in agreement with rob though, I don't think annele belongs on that list, at least right now.

[serprex]

I'm very open to a D1 where no scum were on the block. The problem is, as I've shown before, we can't afford the expected value of Annele being scum

Hence why I'd rather start with kdz/geo. But sadly DC won't be staying with us, so we can't keep Annele around in the longterm, so might as well get it over with

I don't expect shock to lie about Annele's role either way. He'd want that town cred when she flips Oty

[killsdazombies]

Are you saying if annele is town, ian is mafia, and if ian is mafia annele is town, is that right?

[killsdazombies]

Im just trying to clarify

scum:
shock
geo
kdz
annele or ian

geo or kdz are anubis

Tonight DC targets Annele. We flip one of geo or kdz. Then Annele. Then leftover from geo/kdz. Then shock. Then ian

[serprex]

There's worlds where they're both scum

You're having trouble coming up with a mafia that doesn't include you

I hope that all five on my scumlist will try come up with plausible mafia teams which don't include themselves

[rob77dp]

andretimpa (3) - Calindu, Submachine, MasterWalks
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi
Annele (5) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, andretimpa, iancudorinmarian, rob77dp
*abstention* (3) - DC, TorB, kdz

Annele (2) - DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (2) - Ge0metry v1.2, Annele
Linkcat (6) - shockcannon, Calindu, kaempfer13, serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, Killsdazombies
Calindu (5) - rob77dp, Linkcat, MasterWalks, andretimpa, Submachine

Back to ruminating on this...

ian / Annele seem very unlikely w/w given ian spent two days voting her and Day 1 she was a legit chance to die.

kae / shock were on town!Link both days. Still so conflicted if that awkward shock/kae thing could be w/v or v/w... town!shock+scum!kae I expect might result in that very confused approach from kae wondering if town!shock (which scum!kae would know is town) had something on him /// scum!shock+town!kae ... as I said before just doesn't compute because in that scenario scum!shock would be all for a mislynch of town!kae who was on the block in a serious way. I am having deja vu (no pun) that I've separately had exactly this thought process, someone save me from me. w/w just I'm not ready to believe because that was legit un-scripted by at least one side in the exchanges I think. v/v - this is the world where shock was just being honest about all of it (how likely??).

kdz end-of-day 2 is suspect in hindsight 20/20 review... Cal was legit wagon in real danger with a vote lead with EOD already being 'juggled' - kdz pops idea for extension? Then a few minutes later he is nailing Link's coffin closed. I know town can honest mistakes, sure, but wow. I hadn't connected those dots until looking into kdz just at that EOD2.

/ugh
This is difficult with so many not always voting, so many AWOL at end-of-days, and with a No Lynch in the mix on Day 1 (lol!town).

[killsdazombies]

What do you want from me here rob? I agree EoD2 was real bad. I called for an extension, and manually extended the EoD timer TWICE while linkcat was the one to be killed, if I was mafia and really wanted him killed I would have just voted on him.

But, as you may notice, I don't vote unless I am confident or at least reasonably confident in who I'm voting on. I didn't think anyone on the block EoD1 was scum, and I didn't think anyone EoD2 was. But I was placed in a "You have to vote or you are scum" scenario, and after a disappointing no lynch d1, I folded and voted on the person who had the conf town, and people I trusted. The flip was a vote on cali, and I trusted no one on that train (at the time). Did it suck? yes, obviously, but at the time I picked the lesser of two evils and resigned myself to fate. I couldnt find the confidence in any of the votes, so I picked to trust the person I had the most confidence in and join their wagon.

[rob77dp]

Trying to fine tune where my head is at with all this...

~ DC self-resolves Night 3
~ DC should absolutely flay Annele again tonight, unless she comes in with some convincing statements about who she intends to Devour + claims about her past targets that DC blocked etc.

*not willing to consider them not being town, at this time*
serp
MW
Sub

*my scum-reads*
Annele
Cal
Ge0 (least "linked" to any other in my suspect pool... indicative _maybe_
kdz (possibly wolf if Cal is wolf, EOD 2 voting/activity)

*my POE suspects (in addition to scum-reads, above)* in order of most sus to least I guess sort of:
shock (clear by me if kae is town)
iancu (clear by me if Annele is wolf)
kae (unlikely wolf if shock is wolf)
timpa
DC^ (is dying tonight)


I will say, that if Cal/Link are v/v wagons at that EOD 2, then very likely scum were taking a vacation either absent at EOD or sitting on kae/Annele idling along, implicating among the group of DC/ian/Ge0/Annele.

And that if Annele/Link are v/v wagons at that EOD 1, then very likely scum were vacationing / absent at EOD or abstaining or sitting on timpa idling along, implicating among the group of Cal/DC/kdz.