Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu

[TheonlyrealBeef]

10. Anything said within the context of the game, including promises, bets, etc, stays within the game. Players can lie, deceive, and manipulate, (but not cheat) in any way they like. Slander within the context of the game is usually not meant as a personal offense.

I am very serious about this and the game.

Right now, I take even Mobian's words as an attempt to manipulate and as your best defense: just (pretending?) to get angry over it.

I have never seen you as chummy as that Espithel post, and find anyone that chummy suspicious. Unless their name was Zyardran.

[MasterWalks]

okay so I am willing to bet Espi talked to a mafia. I am willing to bet whoever he talked to might've slipped up and was worried espi would read mafia off him/her. Now, who would be a target of espi? Who would espi want to talk to? If i had town neighbor, i would talk to people i know well since it would be easier to get a read. I would target shock, insig, or mobian. Who are espi's friends? His profile shows no buddies. Does he have any friends?

I bet he talked to w3 but i dont get scum read on w3.
I dont know espi well enough to know his friends.

[worldwideweb3]

okay so I am willing to bet Espi talked to a mafia. I am willing to bet whoever he talked to might've slipped up and was worried espi would read mafia off him/her. Now, who would be a target of espi? Who would espi want to talk to? If i had town neighbor, i would talk to people i know well since it would be easier to get a read. I would target shock, insig, or mobian. Who are espi's friends? His profile shows no buddies. Does he have any friends?

I bet he talked to w3 but i dont get scum read on w3.
I dont know espi well enough to know his friends.

He didnt.

[Submachine]

Respond to my posts.

[MasterWalks]

Respond to my posts.

Which posts?
The one about if we think annele/vag/cal?
most people have already said they dont have concrete reads yet

[Submachine]

Which posts?
The one about if we think annele/vag/cal?

Yeh, and the one about hiding the Officer.

[iancudorinmarian]

no lynch (5) shockcannon, worldwideweb3, Submachine, TheonlyrealBeef, Espithel

I'm willing to bet at least two people who voted on no-lynch are scum. Annele and vagbuddy are probably town. A mafia wouldn't stick to an officer claim, even if it's shock doing that claim.

Now that shock and Espi are dead, there are only www3, Sub and TorB left there. Out of the three, w3 is the most scummy of them all imo. I have a slight town read on Sub and neutral read on Torb atm.

I still hold my opinion that both shock and w3 have to be dead by Day 2. If w3 turns out to be town, that most likely means at least one of TorB/Sub and 2-3 of MasterWalks, iancudorinmarian, Calindu,  kaempfer13, PlayerOa, Mobian are mafia. I also think d2d is likely mafia as well. If he is indeed scum like I think he is, that gives us even more information.

Either way, w3 dying would give us a lot of information no matter what his alignment turns out to be.

worldwideweb3 (5) - MasterWalks, iancudorinmarian, Calindu,  kaempfer13, PlayerOa

Mobian (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (1) - iancudorinmarian

[TheonlyrealBeef]

There are many ways to be useful. Other than responding to what others say, you can start your own conversations, plans, suspicions, unheard statements.

For example, who else thinks that one of vagman/Calindu/Annele is Mafia?

None of them are particularly active, only borderline above inactive. None of them make crucial points, one way or another. All of them generally agree with what other people are saying. I town read none of them.

For vag, I am slightly conflicted: on the one hand, there is the slight scum lean for vag for being literally the only one to agree with the slight scum read on me, only to not follow it through. His prime scum reads were me, w3 and Link, yet he did not vote to lynch any of them.

Ugh ,finally some time to relax and read all the crap that's been posted. Subby you need to improve on shitposting cause that's just shit posting as it has been said It would have been hilarious if day started and there would be only one person having made noise lol   


Also I am still trying to figure out how this is played and the style of each player .For example, Linkat acts cool and post whatever the crap he likes like he's  not afraid of the nightkill/lynching. Not sure if that's mafia behavior or just link being link ,probably the latter.
On my list of suspicious behavior is torbie(for pretty much what espi said) and www3 and link(after seeing the results of the nightkill it is obvious mafia wanted the kill to not be blocked and those people asked for protection.

I guess this day I will decide instinctively so I reserve my nutkick vote for later once more crap has been posted.

Even when he had the chance to hammer w3 and make it final, why is this? I will give him the benefit of the doubt for new to mafia here, since I honestly do not understand why mafia would do this. They would just hammer someone town, right?

Fixed lynch vote:

Mobian (1) - TheonlyrealBeef
worldwideweb3 (1) - iancudorinmarian

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Of course, an alternative theory, is that vag did not hammer him because he is mafia, thinking one step ahead and not going for the obvious play that would make him suspicious.

[PlayerOa]

Sus rn: cal link mob kae Oa and one of not as actives.

Could you elaborate on your scumreads?

I also agree on your two townreads; MW and Sub.

[Calindu]

For example, who else thinks that one of vagman/Calindu/Annele is Mafia?

I'm not sure about this grouping to be honest, why one and only one? I don't see any link between me and either vagman or Annele, no heavily opposed view, nothing like that. I'd appreciate if you gave some kind of reasoning of why specifically this group.

okay so I am willing to bet Espi talked to a mafia.

Actually, I think there's a good chance Espithel didn't even use his ability, it's not the best ability, and its best use is using it on confirmed towns. Using it and hitting a mafia with it is basically a role claim that only the mafia knows about, and it removes Espithel from the pool of potential Officers.

Sus rn: cal link mob kae Oa and one of not as actives.

Maybe give some reasoning about it, why only one of the not as actives? You have already been called out on scumreading people and not giving any reason why, by none other than Espithel too.

In an attempt to hide the Officer's identity, even though I cannot have a weapon, I claim that TheonlyrealBeef is Town.

I like this, it allows the Officer to leave breadcrumbs in a very productive way, as it gets everyone to claim their best townread as well too. I believe that if we do this, more players should follow through with it.

I claim that Submachine is Town. 

[worldwideweb3]

Sus rn: cal link mob kae Oa and one of not as actives.

Could you elaborate on your scumreads?

I also agree on your two townreads; MW and Sub.

You're mainly there because you stayed on shock even after his officer claim, and after moved to lynch me when no lynch came under threat. Very weak sus rn but a sus nonetheless.