Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu

[Submachine]

Submachine's tip of the day:

When a heated argument is going on during a Day phase, always check who avoid being part of the argument. Mafia's best strategy in the last two games have been to let Town members eat each other while sitting back.

[worldwideweb3]

Submachine's tip of the day:

When a heated argument is going on during a Day phase, always check who avoid being part of the argument. Mafia's best strategy in the last two games have been to let Town members eat each other while sitting back.

Ty for telling mafia what to do.

Subs a mafia.

[moehrpi]

I disagree with roleclaiming. I fully expect Haunt to be used and this makes it too easy for mafia.

Does everyone agree that making noise is generally bad for town / scummy? So, tread carefully.

Also, this time I will lynch everyone who uses guard N0. No questions asked.

[kaempfer13]

The noise of Vigilante kill has an immediately obvious tell that will be reflected in the flip. So long as we make sure all noise sources are explained to town at least the day after, noise is fine if it got us something usefull.

[moehrpi]

The noise of Vigilante kill has an immediately obvious tell that will be reflected in the flip. So long as we make sure all noise sources are explained to town at least the day after, noise is fine if it got us something usefull.

I don't see all noise getting explained the day after. Mafia meddles with it and you don't want to roleclaim because of haunt.



There are 14 roles for 17 people + Officer. If we're lucky there's no Musician. ~~

[kaempfer13]

Obv dont use musician or Drug dealer for the lulz. Even if you roleclaim the typical drawbacks of role claim apply and if you dont the person that made noise will likely get lynched. Also if you find your role removed this means haunt was used!

[Submachine]

Let's discuss actually useful things.

Officer •Observe (ER): Target a player. You learn their secondary role. •Investigate (ER): Target a player. You learn their primary role. You must have observed them before. •Raid (1U): Target a player. You learn their primary role. Makes noise.

Should the Officer start off with a Raid or should he keep it for later? With no guarantee that the Officer lives, it might be better to start off with a rushed investigation with the cost of making noise.

Before the game, I was wondering if the Drug Dealer role has any use for Town, but there might actually be. If we decide that the Officer should rush an investigation on Night 0, all Drug Dealers should target self to hide the Officer's identity. It's like hiding a Graboid but during a single phase.

[Submachine]

Hmm, that's risky though. If a player only makes noise once, it is easier for the Mafia to deduce the Officer from them.

Drug Dealer is not a pro-Town role, so the only way I see Drug Dealers being useful is targeting self with Loud Pills on Night 0 and never using any abilities for the rest of the game. So even if the Officer doesn't use Raid, the Drug Dealers can delay the Mafia from finding the Officer.

[kaempfer13]

I would reserve that one for the night the officer wanted to claim anyway. An undertaker should use raid instantly over
any other ability though (it's the only way for them to gain alignement info directly unless both officer and grave robber died in the same phase, or very lucky grave digger use)

[kaempfer13]

Town!Friendly neighbor could coordinate town! Drug dealer   with officer, it's unlikely and dangerous though

[Submachine]

Heck, Town Musicians, start singing on Night 0. We need all the cover possible for the Officer. Let's make Night 0 the loudest night there is!

I would reserve that one for the night the officer wanted to claim anyway. An undertaker should use raid instantly over
any other ability though (it's the only way for them to gain alignement info directly unless both officer and grave robber died in the same phase, or very lucky grave digger use)

Why though? The Officer might not live until the day he wants to claim. And it's even more efficient if both the Officer and the Undertaker use Raid. The only downside is the noise, which you didn't address.

[worldwideweb3]

Asking for protection from Doc.