Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu

[Mobian]

if we dont find a maf this phase, we are gonna be 4 town down. More if maf has a kill role too.

Okay, that's exactly the card Sub pulled two mafias ago. We were at do-or-die stage and he was the most desperate one out of all, when he was scum "WE HAVE TO LYNCH MAFIA NOW OR WE LOSE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA". You're pulling that card waaaaaay to early to be town. Like c'mon dude, it's just day 2.

@others, help me lynch w3.

I'd love to, but I don't think he's dirty. I'm on the fence regarding Insig and Naii though.

[kaempfer13]

Then why would you love to? You have 1 vote on you right now, this is too early for selfpreservation. You shouldnt want your townreads dead.

[Mobian]

Cause he's one of the ones that rubs me the wrong way. If I were voting out of spite, I'd vote him in a heartbeat. However, zI do read town from him, even if it's douchetown.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Ohh and I like the sound of Sub's new idea of townclaiming. If I'm officer, the following statement is true as I have done my first investigation by now. If I'm not the officer, this is merely a simple townread without any more substance.

kaempfer13 is town.

I say this exact same thing.

That is kind of unoriginal. Still, hmmm...
What to do, what to do.

You see, on the one hand there is the strongest town read claim. But would that truly be the person whom you would be targeting as officer? I can bandwagon these claims, but the actual officer claim would likely stand out, unless we each pick unique targets. But the town reads will be significantly weaker.

In N0, I targeted dawn.
If I am officer, my continued investigation from N1 has led me to learn dawn is town. If I am not officer, then this statement only means I suspected dawn N0. No more, no less.

[worldwideweb3]

MW is town.

I dont really know how helpful this hiding officer thing is but oh well, doesn't harm so w/e.

[kaempfer13]

This has the problem though that you essentially arent allowed to vote for people you supposedly townread without immediately nullifying that statement. I had the same gripe as you did with the original method. I suppose your cover holds up as long as you are not making a case or a vote on dawn, but is there a better method maybe?

[kaempfer13]

In fact thats actually problem; as soon as you make a case on dawn you are confirmed not to be the officer, which worsens their odds of survival of the real one. I think we need to discuss this before any more people claim!

[Mobian]

The main problem I see is that it makes the real officer less credible.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

In fact thats actually problem; as soon as you make a case on dawn you are confirmed not to be the officer, which worsens their odds of survival of the real one. I think we need to discuss this before any more people claim!

Not to mention confirming (mafia only!) people not to be officer if they town read a maf. If we ascend these claims to "shock-like mindgating", they will at least mean absolutely nothing again. But it certainly does not help the real officer.

[dawn to dusk]

Cover all bases: Some people do this same Officer claim D3, which protects against the few cases where either Officer didn't, or was unable to, use their ability N0 or N1

[TheonlyrealBeef]

A kind reminder that if people do not want another vote swap pandemonium at the end of round, they really need to start voting. Vote to pressure inactives, vote for your beliefs... just let everyone know where you stand and why, so people can consider these options before mafia orchestrates a townie to get killed near the end of voting phase. It's much harder to recognize such actions when you do not have the time to think them over.

[Submachine]

I don't mind if the Officer votes on his official townread as long as we can look back at his posts and obviously deduce who his findings were. Just don't get your townread lynched, Officer.

Also, lol, I sleep through the night and we still only have 2 votes. People here don't care about late day frenzy.

I have a message to all the people who barely contributed yet. I know you don't know how to play Mafia. Time to learn it!

Here is how. Pick a person from the list below who someone else didn't pick yet, and PUBLICLY analyze their posts one by one. How to analyze? You deduce whether their posts are indicative of alignment, if they are consistent or fluctuating, if they said anything that contradicts themselves, anything you find that you would say if you were mafia. Anything. JUST BE HECKING USEFUL, SHIVA DAMMIT.

PlayerOa, Annele, vagman13, Mobian, Linkcat, dawn to dusk, MasterWalks

Vaggy, I'm sorry but the court has found your activities suspicious. You openly said that you wouldn't have fun if you were mafia, and here you are looking like someone not having fun. You didn't even go Vaggy Nutto Kicku yet, only on shock as a pressure vote. I need you to be openly talkative, please. I really didn't want to vote on you, but if things go on like this, I don't see anything changin'. x_X

Mobian (1) - TheonlyrealBeef
worldwideweb3 (1) - iancudorinmarian
vagman13 (1) - Submachine