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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1291955#msg1291955
« Reply #480 on: June 28, 2019, 08:51:20 pm »
also i still dont understand what got people on dawn in the first place.
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1291956#msg1291956
« Reply #481 on: June 28, 2019, 09:15:37 pm »
Half placeholder half "speak-up" vote, dunno if gut feeling is an allowed argument but a slight even so
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1291957#msg1291957
« Reply #482 on: June 28, 2019, 09:26:03 pm »
also i still dont understand what got people on dawn in the first place.
From the four popular targets, we didn't want to lynch Insig behind his back and I assumed dawn has the least useful role from the other three. I also wanted to avoid lynching www, so I was okay to lynch Shock. Then after shock claimed Officer, dawn became the best option again.

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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1291958#msg1291958
« Reply #483 on: June 28, 2019, 09:29:38 pm »
also i still dont understand what got people on dawn in the first place.
From the four popular targets, we didn't want to lynch Insig behind his back and I assumed dawn has the least useful role from the other three. I also wanted to avoid lynching www, so I was okay to lynch Shock. Then after shock claimed Officer, dawn became the best option again.

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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1291959#msg1291959
« Reply #484 on: June 28, 2019, 09:42:46 pm »
people voted on dawn due to inactivity. Dawn isnt conf town, anyone who voted on him isnt sus just because they voted dawn. Link's vote on dawn is more interesting, but its link. i wouldnt read too much into it. (tho i do have sus on link cause gut)
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1291962#msg1291962
« Reply #485 on: June 28, 2019, 09:56:12 pm »
people voted on dawn due to inactivity. Dawn isnt conf town, anyone who voted on him isnt sus just because they voted dawn. Link's vote on dawn is more interesting, but its link. i wouldnt read too much into it. (tho i do have sus on link cause gut)

sub was actually shading people who defended dawn. personally I think its pretty NAI, even lean town if dawn is not mafia. we would not have gotten any info out of dawn if we lynched him tonight.
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1291963#msg1291963
« Reply #486 on: June 28, 2019, 10:10:24 pm »
people voted on dawn due to inactivity. Dawn isnt conf town, anyone who voted on him isnt sus just because they voted dawn. Link's vote on dawn is more interesting, but its link. i wouldnt read too much into it. (tho i do have sus on link cause gut)

sub was actually shading people who defended dawn. personally I think its pretty NAI, even lean town if dawn is not mafia. we would not have gotten any info out of dawn if we lynched him tonight.

Subs hardly being too aggro on it, just sharing what he feels. Defending dawn on inactivity didn’t sit right w him and that’s fair enough.
Well, except dawn it was me or shock. A potential officer or a conf town (imo). Ofc dawn seems the best lynch in that scenario, if a lynch is to take place. Subs right in having sus about people defending dawn on bad reasoning. He’s not making a massive deal and saying that people who defended him are defo maf, just a slight sus. I have no idea why you’re going hard on sub for that lmao.
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1291964#msg1291964
« Reply #487 on: June 28, 2019, 10:12:13 pm »
fwiw, Dawn is an inferior lynch to www3/Shock and I genuinely thought he was afk as, y'know. He's australian and it was 6PM British time.

Kill him if you want.


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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1291965#msg1291965
« Reply #488 on: June 28, 2019, 10:16:53 pm »
I’ll point out that I don’t support a dawn lynch either because I’m not reading him as maf, I was clarifying what sub meant and pointing out that kae was reading way too much into it
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« Reply #489 on: June 28, 2019, 10:25:38 pm »
I assume if shock is NK'ed and confirmed officer then Grave Robber/Undertaker should target him, preferably Grave Robber.

What do we do if shock lives? I'm not all trust, so I really can't count on that shock is telling the truth.

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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1291967#msg1291967
« Reply #490 on: June 28, 2019, 10:51:49 pm »
Well that was a lot to wake up to. I don't really like the no-lynch, but with all the chaos voting right at the end it was probably better than panic-lynching someone? Then again, first day lynches are always somewhat random so lynching someone just to lynch often seems like the only option.
If I had been awake, I don't know if I'd have changed my vote or not - as I said, I don't think w3 is necessarily mafia but my vote on shock was just initially inactivity. With shock claiming officer it's probably good to keep him alive for a while. We can always lynch him later if/once the real officer gives us real info.

I assume if shock is NK'ed and confirmed officer then Grave Robber/Undertaker should target him, preferably Grave Robber.

That's a good point now I think about it. At least we know that officer isn't necessarily lost if shock is the officer and he does get killed/lynched.
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1291968#msg1291968
« Reply #491 on: June 28, 2019, 10:55:03 pm »
I assume if shock is NK'ed and confirmed officer then Grave Robber/Undertaker should target him, preferably Grave Robber.

What do we do if shock lives? I'm not all trust, so I really can't count on that shock is telling the truth.

This might have been discussed before, I've read almost everything but not all of it. Or I might have missed something. Fill me in if this has been discussed.

Nothing. Wait until the real officer dies or wants to claim (when he has sufficient enough info).
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