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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292751#msg1292751
« Reply #1068 on: July 08, 2019, 06:31:43 am »
i assume you mean the derpclearing part?

TorB hinted towards all 3 mafia that we found in the span of 2 days. I understand why you think such a feat is only possible with inside-info, but its still a bad move to do it as mafia and TorB is smart enough to know it. Also he gave formiddable reasoning for all of them (way beyond what you would do for easy towncred as busser) and if you had followed more actively, you would have realized that the towncore is just generally extremely strong this time around, while mafia slips constantly. You are suggesting killing our MVP.

Also, MW is Mafia.

I don't know or care who he hinted at, I do know that he made votes to counter a dawn lynch and a Cal lynch, and the one he actually tried to lynch was the best bus option. Our town core is huge and if one is mafia, it's probably TorB. If not, then we won anyway. That's why it's a good play to shoot him.
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292752#msg1292752
« Reply #1069 on: July 08, 2019, 06:57:26 am »
Would you rather have had me vote Calindu last day? Logically speaking, what would have been the benifit? Calindu was already getting lynched, nothing could change that. Even MasterWalks realized and went with the bandwagon, just to bandwagon. I mean, really? He's my next guess, so he must be maf :sillyspin:

I would much rather pressure other people some to try and expose the final mafia, than just dump another vote on Calindu and kill discussion. It is illogical to waste an opportunity to learn more about the final mafia member.

And for day 1, does that not include practically everyone? My scum read was still weak at that point, so despite suspecting dawn N0 like I hinted at, I was easily convinced to vote no lynch since people I town read suggested it. I mean, I'm just some newb, what do I know? It wasn't until Mobian that I felt truly convinced on a scum read.

Assuming there is only one vigilante, the ability will be on cooldown this night regardless. Assuming MasterWalks is mafia as we suspect, you will not get the opportunity to kill me, regardless. But I will still defend any actions I have taken, due to my conviction of them being just and logical with the information given to me at that point in time. If you had more information and wanted me to act differently, you should have made a solid case with solid and sound arguments. The fact that Linkcat refuses to do so, pisses me off. For I cannot point out the logical fallicies a mafia would make if they tried to do so for an extended period of time. That's what all my suspicion was about. Is about.

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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292753#msg1292753
« Reply #1070 on: July 08, 2019, 07:06:18 am »
i assume you mean the derpclearing part?

TorB hinted towards all 3 mafia that we found in the span of 2 days. I understand why you think such a feat is only possible with inside-info, but its still a bad move to do it as mafia and TorB is smart enough to know it. Also he gave formiddable reasoning for all of them (way beyond what you would do for easy towncred as busser) and if you had followed more actively, you would have realized that the towncore is just generally extremely strong this time around, while mafia slips constantly. You are suggesting killing our MVP.

Also, MW is Mafia.


Aaaaa here’s the thing. I went after mob. Link went after dawn. And sub (to an extent) went after Cal. Torb just assumed those 3 would be dead regardless so bussed aaaaaaaaaaaa (not that I believe it that much, but a possibility just like you being a maf is still a possibility :^)
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292754#msg1292754
« Reply #1071 on: July 08, 2019, 08:03:25 am »
Oh you voted no lynch Day 1? Yeah, you're town then. It's probably just Annele or vag. Could be MW too I guess, I'll just let you guys take care of the rest.
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292755#msg1292755
« Reply #1072 on: July 08, 2019, 08:04:57 am »
I was wondering why I did not get a reply, but it turns out I did. I had to read back a bit.

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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292757#msg1292757
« Reply #1073 on: July 08, 2019, 08:29:58 am »
Link raises an excellent point. Are Annele and vagman more Town than others? Iirc, they both voted on Mobian, but that's it.
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292759#msg1292759
« Reply #1074 on: July 08, 2019, 09:14:48 am »
vagman was on both votes that mattered at a good time to ultimately get them killed whilst Anneles vote was THE turning point (although Linkcat said it was a a good time to buss? Quite frankly this could have gone the same way as g11's infolynch  ;D). They also give fair enough reasons (I like Annele better in this regard) and do seem to think it through although they do not necessarily read everything.
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292760#msg1292760
« Reply #1075 on: July 08, 2019, 09:28:54 am »
This is from the lynchlog.

Mobian (6) - TheonlyrealBeef, kaempfer13, Linkcat, worldwideweb3, vagman13, Annele
worldwideweb3 (5) - iancudorinmarian, PlayerOa, dawn to dusk, Calindu, InsignificantWeeaboo
vagman13 (1) - Submachine
Submachine (1) - MasterWalks

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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292761#msg1292761
« Reply #1076 on: July 08, 2019, 09:39:45 am »
It's also interesting that despite perfect town play would be to use weaponsmith on Sub to confirm a lie or town, MasterWalks did not just not check him for a weapon: he even proceeded to lynch vote Sub.

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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292774#msg1292774
« Reply #1077 on: July 08, 2019, 06:12:26 pm »
While trying to tear apart everyone suspicious during the day, the people agreed to a shift system during the night. At any given time, at least 5 of them were awake so that a creature trying to kill someone would be caught immediately.
However, as much as the adrenaline pushed them day time, it drained their energy for the night much more than expected. The fact that they were just loosely organised did not help. At least, only one more victim needed to be counted for tonight... why is it just one at a time, anyway?



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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292775#msg1292775
« Reply #1078 on: July 08, 2019, 06:14:29 pm »
Vote on MW

@Ginyu any chance we can get a shorter day if the votes are done early and are concrete?
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Re: Elements Mafia 72 - by Ginyu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67245.msg1292776#msg1292776
« Reply #1079 on: July 08, 2019, 06:18:13 pm »
Officer, any chance you’ve info on MW Oa, or found the last mafia yet? q.q you’ve been so unhelpful :sillyspin: (don’t claim if you got nothing that’ll help us)
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