Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine

[InsignificantWeeaboo]

I mentioned part of this in chat a while back, but I don't think too many people noticed.

Mobian gave Calindu momentum, but Calindu wasn't able to do anything with it since I blocked him

[immortal feud]

i was protecting shock for the meme and dont say i think espi is mafia, i was refering to my first reads where i was totally stabbing in the dark. Opinions have changed since then. i am starting to consider you being mafia now shock, seems like your grasping alot of
 straws

[immortal feud]

i would like to hear more from link and dd about who is likely the rest of mafia

[shockcannon]

You protected me for the meme? 10/10 defense.

If you think mafia, or even worse I am mafia, you just low key admitted to throwing for town. You were a deciding factor in the 6-5 vote that killed moerhpi when town knew it was running out of lynches before lynch or die. I might be the worst town player ever (at least for this game) but at least I explain actual reasonings behind all my actions and thoughts, even if people disagree with them.

[shockcannon]

*If you think I'm mafia

[immortal feud]

[I am mafia]

ladies and gentlemen

as has been said before we are past the point of considering getting rid of bad towns, we need to lynch mafia now

[shockcannon]

Is meme’ing your way of panicking? I can almost hear Espithel yelling at you through his computer screen.

I bring up a couple solid points of why you might be suspicious and you go from defending me as town, to claiming that was a meme, to believing that “I am mafia” all within the span of several minutes? That’s a red flag if I ever saw it. My post wasn’t even really about you. You were a side thought, off-shoot in a post that mostly looked at Root’s behaviors. The more you keep responding to me without any actual substance, the more it looks like we’re bussing each other which really only hurts your image as mine is already about as low as it gets.

[Submachine]

The deadline is updated.

Day 4 has ended.

Edit 1 (June 5th): Cut down the timer by one day.

[Calindu]

I mentioned part of this in chat a while back, but I don't think too many people noticed.

Mobian gave Calindu momentum, but Calindu wasn't able to do anything with it since I blocked him

First of all, what the hell dude, I posted all my info so our confirmed players could make good use of it, and I intended to keep doing it.
Secondly, you didn't block me, because Queen comes before Guard.

I'd understand you guarding me to protect me against random abilities, but you clearly said you wanted to block me.

[Espithel]

See, Walks?


Even when I'm confirmed mafia, people don't roleblock me.

Honesssstly.

[RootRanger]

In response to shock and in defense of my push on JCJ and read on MW

A lynch on Espithel on Day 1 would have been the wrong play. The possibility occurred to me that MW was a GN who had investigated Espithel. He left his breadcrumb, and I reaffirmed it publicly that MW could be GN. At this point, the lynch on Espithel was inevitable. If MW died as GN, Espithel would be lynched the next day because people would figure out that Espi was his N0 target. If it  got to lynch or lose without Espi's death, MW would reveal. There was zero rush to lynch Espithel on Day 1.

I realize it seems counterintuitive - if you think someone's mafia, you obviously want to lynch them, right? Yes and no. Espithel was always going to be lynched at some point in the game. If he was lynched on Day 1, we would lose our GN on Night 1. Instead, by waiting a few rounds for a GN roleclaim, we not only get to lynch Espithel, but also get an additional GN reveal. It's the strictly better play.

So, that was my hesitation with lynching Espithel on Day 1. It would reveal our GN immediately.

And if MW was GN and Espi mafia, then mafia would have wanted to get rid of MW. That's why I went after one of the players who had voted to lynch MW. It made zero sense for a civilian to want to kill off someone who is likely our GN, especially someone experienced as JCJ. It sucks that he was civ, but it was still the correct play at the time with the information I had.

But when I made my scumreads, Coffee had revealed that he roleblocked GN on Night 0. So, it was super unlikely that MW was actually a GN who targeted Espi on N0,  because GN was roleblocked. So I threw the whole thing out when I made my reads.

The GN who was roleblocked ended up being a Fate Egg. This was an insanely unlikely outcome that I didn't base my reads around. Sorry?

Reads are supposed to change when the relevant information behind them changes. Anything else would either be a bad civ or mafia trying to pin blame on someone arbitrary.

Seems like shock is trying to build up a lynch on me tomorrow, something that would just about seal the game for mafia. Don't fall for the bait.

[Submachine]

[2019-06-04 23:14:08] shockcannon: Insig is sus
[2019-06-04 23:14:17] shockcannon: I got info to share later

[2019-06-04 23:36:34] shockcannon: Wait
[2019-06-04 23:36:39] shockcannon: FFQ can see NK?
[2019-06-04 23:36:49] shockcannon: Since when,

[2019-06-05 05:11:25] shockcannon: probably wont be on much tomorrow though
[2019-06-05 05:12:22] MasterWalks: shocks going afk tomorrow. Better lynch him -_-
[2019-06-05 07:20:50] shockcannon: Alright
[2019-06-05 07:21:08] shockcannon: I think there’s a good chance either immortal feud or rootranger is mafia
[2019-06-05 07:24:28] shockcannon: I’m just going to say the exact same thing in a post
[2019-06-05 08:00:36] shockcannon: I hope my post gets read
[2019-06-05 08:00:45] shockcannon: One of the most level headed ones I’ve made this whole game
[2019-06-05 08:40:15] immortal_feud: where are dd and link grr
[2019-06-05 08:41:34] dawn_to_dusk: Not here
[2019-06-05 08:52:45] kaempfer13: oh, are we going to hear sth now?
[2019-06-05 08:53:03] immortal_feud: link save town thanks
[2019-06-05 08:57:14] Linkcat: I'll try.

[2019-06-05 09:08:05] immortal_feud: shock is mafia
[2019-06-05 09:08:08] immortal_feud: discuss

[2019-06-05 09:08:12] shockcannon: I want to talk about mafia
[2019-06-05 09:08:23] shockcannon: Oh crap, now everyone can read me
[2019-06-05 09:08:30] shockcannon: I just gave away everything about myself

[2019-06-05 09:25:06] immortal_feud: link are you town?
[2019-06-05 09:28:38] kaempfer13: How about you guys avenge me rather than wasting time?
[2019-06-05 09:30:25] immortal_feud: are you town shock?
[2019-06-05 09:37:20] immortal_feud: do you normally read chatlogs shock?
[2019-06-05 09:38:11] shockcannon: I give about 0% chance that anyone reads through this entire log after it’s posted
[2019-06-05 09:38:34] immortal_feud: damn ignored again
[2019-06-05 09:47:35] Linkcat: ‹@immortal_feud› Yes.