Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine

[Linkcat]

Continued from the last one.

Spoiler for chat log:

[13:05:27] ‹ddevans96› Espi: what percentage of your vote on IF is omgus/pressure/actual desire to lynch
[13:05:28] ‹Mobian› Checking in from work myself
[13:05:57] ‹Mobian› Omgus?
[13:06:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from Espithel in Forum Games. When it absolutely, positively, has to be read overnight.
[13:06:04] ‹ddevans96› oh my god you suck
[13:06:10] ‹ddevans96› basically 'I'm voting for you bc you voted on me'
[13:06:27] ‹Mobian› Oh, spite
[13:06:32] ‹ddevans96› pretty much
[13:06:49] ‹MyNameIsJoey› On the website i used to play mafia on
[13:06:55] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› If that really is what omgus means, it's a stupid acronym.
[13:06:59] ‹MyNameIsJoey› there was this one guy who could somehow always tell whether or not I was mafia.
[13:07:05] ‹ddevans96› how is it stupid?
[13:07:47] ‹Espithel› ‹@ddevans96› 0%/99%/1%
[13:07:52] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› It doesn't convey the actual meaning of the vote, plus it's smack talk.
[13:08:09] ‹ddevans96› it was named after an actual exchange in the earlier days of mafiascum
[13:08:36] ‹ddevans96› also - it does, and it isn't
[13:08:46] ‹ddevans96› I mean...I guess it doesn't directly
[13:09:05] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› From that acronym, I would have guessed that it's a pity vote for players who can't play properly.
[13:09:14] ‹ddevans96› but, like...it's definitely relatable
[13:09:21] ‹Espithel› OMG YOU SUCK, EVERYONE LYNCH
[13:09:22] ‹Espithel› er
[13:09:25] ‹Espithel› I need er
[13:09:27] ‹Espithel› DEMAGOG
[13:09:31] ‹ddevans96› it's not 'suck' as in 'you're bad at the game'
[13:09:40] ‹Espithel› It's suck as in "i hate you "
[13:09:44] ‹ddevans96› it's 'you suck' as in 'fuck you'
[13:10:04] ‹Espithel› 'please do :heart:'
[13:10:10] ‹ddevans96› or more accurately, what Espi said
[13:10:26] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› That makes more sense, though it's not the first thing that would come to my mind in any of the parallel universes.
[13:10:50] • Espithel coughs.
[13:11:01] ‹Espithel› It's just, I get feud's not a 100% tryhard meta player
[13:11:34] ‹Espithel› But you don't get to not exist, say "I think Espi's scum, I think these two people are tone", nothing else, and then go back to not existing
[13:11:35] ‹Linkcat› It's his first game lol.
[13:11:44] ‹Espithel› these two people are town*
[13:11:53] ‹Linkcat› He gave reads, that's good.
[13:12:10] ‹Espithel› You should explain your reads, though.
[13:12:14] ‹Linkcat› I happen to like two of those reads.
[13:12:22] ‹ddevans96› I guess an equivalent would be if you play Catan, someone moves the robber to you, you said 'oh my god you suck', and then you move the robber to him in retaliation
[13:12:31] ‹ddevans96› if you don't play Catan, that means nothing
[13:12:43] ‹ddevans96› my point is it's applicable to a lot of competitive games
[13:13:06] ‹ddevans96› ‹@Linkcat› which two?
[13:13:17] ‹iancudorinmarian› And yeah, that happens a lot
[13:14:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from Mobian in Forum Games. Do you even post?
[13:14:45] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› I'm out for the night, but someone should keep posting chatlogs.
[13:14:51] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› Bye y'all~
[13:15:01] ‹iancudorinmarian› Cya sub
[13:15:26] ‹Calindu› Unless another player is just insanely far ahead, I always retaliate with the robber in Catan lol
[13:15:44] ‹Linkcat› Me and shock.
[13:16:30] ‹ddevans96› so you're saying that you think shock and Espi are both town?
[13:16:33] ‹ddevans96› hm
[13:16:33] ‹Linkcat› I mean, you probably shouldn't be townreading me, but I like anyone who does.
[13:16:51] ‹Linkcat› No, Espi is neutral with you.
[13:16:59] ‹Linkcat› Shock is town though
[13:17:31] ‹ddevans96› I also think shock is town
[13:18:11] ‹Mobian› I'm undecided
[13:20:59] ‹Linkcat› Hi undecided, I'm dad.
[13:21:30] ‹iancudorinmarian› These jokes will never get old
[13:21:31] ‹Mobian› I never thought you'd show up
[13:22:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from ddevans96 in Forum Games. It's not a mystery.
[13:32:02] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from Linkcat in Forum Games. I found Wally.
[13:34:55] ‹ddevans96› lmao
[13:35:00] ‹ddevans96› quality interactions
[13:40:40] ‹Linkcat› Thanks
[13:41:36] ‹ddevans96› god I want to send an even snarkier response
[13:41:38] ‹shockcannon› Honestly
[13:41:45] ‹shockcannon› Root is really bad at mafia
[13:41:58] ‹ddevans96› if you say so
[13:42:02] ‹shockcannon› Imo might be the worst person at reads
[13:42:28] ‹shockcannon› He legit only lynches town
[13:42:31] ‹ddevans96› btw: did you know the ability 'Queen' has a lower priority than the ability 'Psionic Wave'?
[13:42:41] ‹shockcannon› Clearly not
[13:42:51] ‹shockcannon› Which should be even more of a sign that I’m town
[13:49:09] ‹ddevans96› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› post in mafia when you can. I want to hear your thoughts
[13:50:29] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› ok
[13:50:52] ‹ddevans96› ty
[14:14:30] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› Honestly dd is super sketch
[14:14:40] ‹ddevans96› who speaks
[14:14:47] ‹ddevans96› I don't take note of guest tags very often
[14:16:34] ‹Linkcat› shock
[14:17:41] ‹ddevans96› why am I sketch? would be interested to hear reasoning
[14:24:31] ‹shockcannon› too hard to explain
[14:24:38] ‹shockcannon› root is bad at this game
[14:24:43] ‹shockcannon› people should really ignore him
[14:24:54] ‹shockcannon› or at least just not follow his votes
[14:26:07] ‹shockcannon› maf killing playeroa was a pretty bad move though imo
[14:26:26] ‹ddevans96› it was the least relevant player they could have killed
[14:26:30] ‹ddevans96› it gave town zero information
[14:26:36] ‹ddevans96› fine kill imo
[14:27:11] ‹shockcannon› I was having a hard time figuring out the 4th mafia
[14:27:17] ‹shockcannon› playeroa was one of the potential ones on my list
[14:27:29] ‹shockcannon› so mafia just narrowed it down for me instead of killing a super obvious townie
[14:27:52] ‹ddevans96› if you say so
[14:27:57] ‹PlayerOa› Me mafia
[14:28:01] ‹PlayerOa› lol
[14:30:52] ‹shockcannon› i think there's a decent i get lynched day 2
[14:31:13] ‹shockcannon› but just know that ian is feeding everyone lies
[14:33:19] ‹shockcannon› ‹@ddevans96› do you think ian is mafia?
[14:34:06] ‹Espithel› I think that you have to persuade us that he is using facts, evidence, and logic.
[14:34:26] ‹Espithel› He has to be DESTROYED by FACTS and LOGIC
[14:35:07] ‹ddevans96› I have no reason to believe iancu is mafia right now, other than your belief that he is
[14:35:10] ‹ddevans96› but I do think you're town
[14:35:22] ‹shockcannon› lol
[14:35:29] ‹shockcannon› i'm so tempted to reveal 3 of the mafia right now
[14:35:35] ‹shockcannon› because it's painfully obvious
[14:35:37] ‹ddevans96› do it
[14:35:42] ‹shockcannon› but I'll hold to my word and info dump on day 3
[14:36:01] ‹ddevans96› k
[14:36:24] ‹MyNameIsJoey› if you have a read, and you are not saying it, you are helping mafia.
[14:36:41] ‹Espithel› Ah, you see
[14:36:43] ‹MyNameIsJoey› because right or wrong, your read helps town reason further
[14:36:52] ‹Espithel› Shock needs to find the fourth one before he becomes really helpful
[14:36:54] ‹Espithel› :^)
[14:37:17] ‹shockcannon› when i list the mafia
[14:37:21] ‹MyNameIsJoey› I have no idea what the situation is, i am not following this mafia.
[14:37:22] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Espithel› More chances to hit one!
[14:37:29] ‹shockcannon› town won't believe me until one of those mafia die or enough other people die
[14:37:40] ‹shockcannon› and I don't trust them to figure out the 4th mafia on their own
[14:38:13] ‹ddevans96› that's an incorrect assumption
[14:38:16] ‹MyNameIsJoey› a mafia game can't be won alone.
[14:38:31] ‹ddevans96› it's not really about 'believing' you
[14:44:22] ‹shockcannon› alright espithel
[14:44:27] ‹shockcannon› i'm gambling my trust in you
[14:45:22] ‹ddevans96› you have me to thank for allowing you to live past day one
[14:45:25] ‹shockcannon› and I think my post will ensure you stay alive this phase
[14:45:33] ‹ddevans96› bc all I had to do was say 'kill shock' and it would have happened
[14:45:43] ‹ddevans96› so if your gambit actually works, I want half credit
[14:46:05] ‹shockcannon› lol
[14:46:25] ‹shockcannon› this mafia has been extremely amusing for me
[14:46:34] ‹Linkcat› I would have tried to stop it but probably failed without a better target.
[14:46:36] ‹shockcannon› sure, you can have half credit
[14:46:40] ‹Espithel› I think that's a pass when it comes to trust.
[14:47:05] ‹shockcannon› lynch me day 3
[14:47:15] ‹shockcannon› I just asked MW to trust that you're town
[14:47:34] ‹shockcannon› and I asked the person who just voted on me to wait one day before lynching me
[14:48:00] ‹shockcannon› trusting in the craziest people is sometimes the least crazy thing to do
[14:49:19] ‹Espithel› I think you're town.
[14:51:02] ‹Espithel› Me lynching you won't change how much I trust or don't trust you. You're a wild one.
[14:51:20] ‹majofa› http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game...
[14:51:24] ‹shockcannon› it will for root and mw though
[14:51:45] ‹Espithel› Probably.
[15:24:02] ‹RootRanger› So
[15:24:08] ‹RootRanger› Oh nvm ddevans is gone
[15:25:01] ‹RootRanger› I just want to comment that shock has more or less the same info as everyone else, at best he knows 1 mafia by being GN
[15:25:14] ‹RootRanger› Placing trust in him to correctly name 2 or 3, or god forbid all 4, is unrealistic
[15:25:42] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› I know all mafia
[15:25:43] ‹RootRanger› He said I'm a town who's really bad at playing town, so I guess he was at least half correct there lol
[15:25:45] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› And I ain’t even playing
[15:25:48] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Too bad I can’t say them
[15:26:08] ‹Linkcat› Lol
[15:26:19] ‹RootRanger› I know 1 civ and I'm 90% sure on another 1 lol
[15:26:35] ‹Linkcat› I mean, he got 2/3 last time, so I'll give his reads consideration.
[15:27:06] ‹RootRanger› He literally just named the people who had told him their roels
[15:27:23] ‹RootRanger› And it happened to be that mafia were playing recklessly that game
[15:27:33] ‹RootRanger› Now he doesn't even have PMs to go off of
[15:27:37] ‹RootRanger› It's random noise

[shockcannon]

The fact that we didn't kill Espithel or ddevans the other day and instead wasted our lynch on JCJ was a real setback. I can't seem to convince anyone that ian is mafia, so I guess I'll concede with gaining the info we should've already gained.

immortal feud (1) - Espithel
shockcannon (1) - RootRanger
kaempfer13 (1) - MasterWalks
ddevans96 (2) - Calindu, shockcannon

[InsignificantWeeaboo]

Definitely should have mentioned this earlier, but I didn't target anyone on N0.

[Linkcat]

Spoiler for chat log:

[16:26:57] ‹shockcannon› killing jcj was actually such a missed opportunity
[16:27:20] ‹shockcannon› espithel or ddevans kill really would be more helpful
[16:27:37] ‹Linkcat› Damnit shock, I just posted the log.
[16:27:51] ‹shockcannon› who cares
[16:28:41] ‹shockcannon› eh i'm getting bored again
[16:28:44] ‹shockcannon› maybe i make my move today
[16:28:52] ‹shockcannon› we'll see if ddevans tries to out me after i turn on him
[16:31:50] ‹shockcannon› also
[16:31:57] ‹shockcannon› root and MW are comically bad with their reads
[16:32:50] ‹Calindu› Well, MW based his whole theory on him interpreting a question about the rules, since he's clearly not GN
[16:34:54] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› Honestly he could be
[16:35:08] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› Would be good cover from mafia
[16:36:23] ‹Calindu› He's not, he claimed he caught a firefly
[16:36:51] ‹Calindu› And not using GN ability would be dumb
[16:37:28] ‹Linkcat› It would have been on cooldown.
[16:37:51] ‹Calindu› Ooh, it's EoR
[16:37:58] ‹Calindu› I was almost certain it's ER
[16:38:06] ‹Calindu› Well, this changes things
[16:44:46] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› I really hope I make it to the next day
[16:45:09] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› The things I’m going to reveal should really pin down a couple mafia and several definite town
[16:45:43] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› I love how root thinks I know nothing more than anyone else
[16:46:39] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› If he underestimates me this much during trials it’ll be a 5-0 easy
[16:48:34] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› is you blocked ian n0 I think you should reveal that
[16:48:42] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› If

[immortal feud]

Welp.

While I wait for people to start shit:

immortal feud (1) - Espithel

feel like espithel is mafia
feel like link and shock are town

C'mon, this is mafia. That's a really threadbare analysis. Would you mind elaborating on it?

just a feeling

[MasterWalks]

Can confirm that there is at least one Otyugh in the game. dd was targeted by them.

Gonna refrain on voting for now, but figured that it could be vaguely useful to give this info.

Definitely should have mentioned this earlier, but I didn't target anyone on N0.

This is strange. Not really the content but what you did here. You've been super silent all game and the first bit of info aside from vore you say is your role and target, and even your N0 action. Warden is really good late game and you role claim when there are only 2/19 dead. Can you explain your thought process doing this? Did you not think people would assume you were ward based on that info? Or do you think Ward is a bad role?

[Espithel]

Welp.

While I wait for people to start shit:

immortal feud (1) - Espithel

feel like espithel is mafia
feel like link and shock are town

C'mon, this is mafia. That's a really threadbare analysis. Would you mind elaborating on it?

just a feeling

Can you put your feelings into words so we can feel your feelings?

[ddevans96]

Everything in Cal's post makes sense, up to the point where he voted for me - basically everything there points to more of a scumread on IW than on me

IW/kae/Cal have had some interesting interaction history this game, as Espi and I have previously noted - I strongly suspect one is mafia, and probably not two.

Also - I suggest considering whether or not me being lynched is something the mafia would desire or not.

Add my vote to kaempfer for the time being, please.

[kaempfer13]

I think we are still missing moehrpis justification for JcJ-lynch; he made a vague claim about jcj being too quiet, later mused taking it back but didn't.

[kaempfer13]

Spoiler for chatlog of self, guess I should just have made a post:

[02:52:02] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from ddevans96 in Forum Games. DANGER ZONE!
[02:55:57] ‹kaempfer13› weird I didnt get a post inbetween writing warning
[02:56:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from kaempfer13 in Forum Games. It needs a gold star.
[02:56:32] ‹kaempfer13› what parallels do you see between me and IW?
[02:57:44] ‹kaempfer13› and as for cal it seems to mostly both of us happening to think that mws claim of espimafia is baseless
[02:57:57] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
(5d9) 8 + 7 + 8 + 8 + 4 = 35 ...!
[02:58:13] ‹kaempfer13› in that case espi lynch would be more logical than either of us
[02:58:15] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› Masterwalks
[02:58:25] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› Ddevans is using you
[02:58:30] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› Don’t let him use you
[02:59:51] ‹kaempfer13› since dd isnt actually here, I guess im basically chatlogging myself I guess

[Espithel]

immortal feud (1) - Espithel
shockcannon (1) - RootRanger
kaempfer13 (2) - MasterWalks, ddevans96
ddevans96 (2) - Calindu, shockcannon

I think we are still missing moehrpis justification for JcJ-lynch; he made a vague claim about jcj being too quiet, later mused taking it back but didn't.

This is true. Here's a question:

Did moehrpi start it?
Or, did Root, sensing an opportunity, continue it?

[immortal feud]

Welp.

While I wait for people to start shit:

immortal feud (1) - Espithel

feel like espithel is mafia
feel like link and shock are town

C'mon, this is mafia. That's a really threadbare analysis. Would you mind elaborating on it?

just a feeling

Can you put your feelings into words so we can feel your feelings?

am bad with words
does you starting the lynch votes with me prove anything?