Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine

[Mobian]

It's very possible... I'm brewing a fresh theory, but I need time to flesh it out.

[MasterWalks]

Hm, since JcJ was GA, I wonder if he protected himself, survived the nightkill and thus mafia wanted to get rid of him while town is easily swayed?

If true, moe was first to vote for him with root being second. Usually takes 2 votes on someone for it to be a meaningful thing.

[Espithel]

Something to note is that train brewed slowly - it only became fully manifest when evans self-preserved himself.

Does that affect anything?

[iancudorinmarian]

There's a high chance I know who JCJ targeted N0.

[Mobian]

There's a high chance I know who JCJ targeted N0.

Yeah, himself. He was likely the NK target.

[RootRanger]

Ouch :/ I'm surprised he was so aggressive with a civ power role, I figured that if he was civ it would at least be one of the weaker roles. Note that JCJ was pushing for the MW lynch - we can maybe look more into the MW/Espithel feud. I still think that between those two targets, Espi is the better lynch for reasons I've described earlier, but since JCJ was pushing for MW I'm not as sure anymore.

Also, I would still be cautious about role blocking anyone tonight. Although there is likely a mafia between Espi/MW, it's not worth risking the chance of blocking a civ power role.

Also interested in what ian has to say.

[iancudorinmarian]

There's a high chance I know who JCJ targeted N0.

Alright, that was a lie. Just wanted to see people's reaction. Most were just guessing, but Mobian seemed to be pretty sure of it. I think we've just found one of the mafias.

There's a high chance I know who JCJ targeted N0.

Yeah, himself. He was likely the NK target.

[iancudorinmarian]

However, I did not lie about my ability failing on N0.

[Mobian]

There's a high chance I know who JCJ targeted N0.

Alright, that was a lie. Just wanted to see people's reaction. Most were just guessing, but Mobian seemed to be pretty sure of it. I think we've just found one of the mafias.

There's a high chance I know who JCJ targeted N0.

Yeah, himself. He was likely the NK target.

You really think I'd have rolled dirty twice in a row? No. I am, however, annoyed that we don't seem to like evidence, and would rather strike out blindly in the asinine hopes that we get lucky enough to hit a mafia. Explain to me who that helps, aside from mafia. Thanks to us blindly shooting in the dark, we just killed off one of our strongest defenders. So yeah, I'm a tad salty. If you think that's enough to make me mafia, then so be it. It's not like we need proof to kill anyone, anyways.

[moehrpi]

I read Mobian as town. He advocated no-lynch at the end, as well as shock.

[kaempfer13]

no lynch is bad for town in the long run so thats actually more of a red flag, even if we ended up targeting one of our own

[Mobian]

no lynch is bad for town in the long run so thats actually more of a red flag, even if we ended up targeting one of our own

Not in the early stages, but you people are SO hung up on "someone has to die, so we MIGHT learn something". With that mindset, we may as well not even have secondary roles and just blindly shoot people till the game ends.