Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine

[ddevans96]

the conventional strategy of using brain and scum reads to decide who to lynch...

...has not yet been in play this game. Three lynches were manipulated late, and the fourth was a confirmed mafia. This is the first round we can actually make a proper lynch based off true reads and logic. We have to take advantage of it.

[immortal feud]

i am low on logic. have you got any convincing arguments on who we should lynch and why?

[ddevans96]

i am low on logic. have you got any convincing arguments on who we should lynch and why?

Linkcat, for more reasons than I can summarize in one post. Skim through my posts and see what you think.

[ddevans96]

Spoiler for short log:

[2019-06-07 18:30:36] ‹ddevans96› ‹@immortal_feud› Link is FFQ, I'm Anubis, IW is Warden, Mobian is Amber Nymph, Cal is FFQ - these are all either confirmed or claimed and not proven incorrect
[2019-06-07 18:30:47] ‹ddevans96› shock claims to be Flayer
[2019-06-07 18:31:02] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[2019-06-07 18:31:04] ‹ddevans96› it is very possible that me/IW/Mobian could be lying, we aren't hard confirmed
[2019-06-07 18:31:08] ‹immortal_feud› shock claims alot
[2019-06-07 18:31:11] ‹ddevans96› but extremely likely
[2019-06-07 18:31:18] ‹ddevans96› shock has literally only claimed Flayer and GN
[2019-06-07 18:31:37] ‹immortal_feud› we got a confirm on link having immortality?
[2019-06-07 18:31:43] ‹MyNameIsJoey› claims kill games.
[2019-06-07 18:31:51] ‹Calindu› I'm making my post atm, I strongly believe we should take a look at the players that 'play dumb'
[2019-06-07 18:31:57] ‹Captain_Scibra› Hm, seems transparent avatars don't work in the chat.
[2019-06-07 18:31:57] ‹ddevans96› no, only his claim
[2019-06-07 18:32:14] ‹Calindu› I can confirm Link got immortality, saw that with my FFQ
[2019-06-07 18:32:41] ‹Espithel› Can't wait for you all to get modkilled
[2019-06-07 18:32:42] ‹Espithel› :^)
[2019-06-07 18:32:48] ‹ddevans96› oh, okay, I missed that
[2019-06-07 18:33:02] ‹Espithel› That's actually a good question
[2019-06-07 18:33:06] ‹Espithel› Can dead people post chatlogs?
[2019-06-07 18:33:21] ‹ddevans96› no
[2019-06-07 18:33:27] ‹ddevans96› I mean, maybe, but just let living people handle it
[2019-06-07 18:33:32] ‹Espithel› Can't wait for you all to get modkilled
[2019-06-07 18:33:35] ‹Espithel› :^):^):^)
[2019-06-07 18:33:59] • Espithel coughs
[2019-06-07 18:34:02] ‹Espithel› Back to Tales of Symphonia
[2019-06-07 18:34:03] ‹immortal_feud› feel like i remember sub saying dead ppl can post chatlogs
[2019-06-07 18:34:15] ‹immortal_feud› but sub said he would prefer an alive player post
[2019-06-07 18:34:17] ‹ddevans96› it'll get posted, fool
[2019-06-07 18:34:18] ‹ddevans96› begone
[2019-06-07 18:34:28] ‹ddevans96› I'll just make sure I post, it's not a big deal
[2019-06-07 18:34:36] ‹immortal_feud› also espi is scum and edits chatlogs when he posts soYIKES
[2019-06-07 18:35:05] ‹ddevans96› the idea was pretty good, post certain important tidbits up front and then the whole log later
[2019-06-07 18:35:17] ‹immortal_feud› maybe
[2019-06-07 18:35:18] ‹ddevans96› I'd have called him out if I think he intentionally left out something important
[2019-06-07 18:35:28] ‹immortal_feud› but naturally any form of TLDR is gonna be baised
[2019-06-07 18:36:05] ‹Espithel› Yeah, I know someone would eventually call that into question
[2019-06-07 18:36:08] ‹immortal_feud› should i expect to be reading players as more likely scum when rereading the last 20 pages?
[2019-06-07 18:36:16] ‹Espithel› OH FFS I'M DEAD
[2019-06-07 18:36:17] ‹ddevans96› yes
[2019-06-07 18:36:19] ‹Espithel› I NEED TO STOP TALKING
[2019-06-07 18:36:21] ‹Espithel› AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[2019-06-07 18:36:37] ‹ddevans96› BEGONE SCUM

[immortal feud]

lets assume im too lazy and wont reread any posts for a 3rd time. My mind still isnt made up.
Beyond that rereading posts just makes me read everyone as scum

[ddevans96]

Beyond that rereading posts just makes me read everyone as scum

Alright, we can work with that. Pick some players and tell us why you read them as scum.

[Calindu]

I believe there's a higher chance that Linkcat is mafia in this exchange, but I want to take a hard look at the people that play the 'dumb game', specifically immortal feud and IW. So:

IW: Why specifically did you target me as guard? A mafia FFQ would be probably almost useless by now, as most of the abilities are known already, but a town FFQ can still be useful in finding some roles, and moreover, I provided all the information that I gained as a result of me using my ability so I don't know why you would every target me.

immortal feud: From your posts, you seem totally lost, and unable to provide any meaningful information or read. Espithel mentioned he hates his team, and I am confident that part of that information is at least half true, and someone that can't be bothered to at least follow what has been posted seems like a good enough reason. You also said that you are voting 'for the memes', so my question is: are you actually following the game, and if so, what's your view of the game, who do you think is mafia?

Linkcat (2) - ddevans96, Mobian
ddevans96 (1) - Linkcat
immortal feud (1) - Calindu

I'm prepared to vote on Linkcat if needed, but for now, I really want some pressure on the less active players that just seem to be playing randomly.

[Calindu]

Also, I apparently didn't get Momentum last night, I guess this confirms IW's claim that he guarded me.

[shockcannon]

Welp.

While I wait for people to start shit:

immortal feud (1) - Espithel

feel like espithel is mafia
feel like link and shock are town

C'mon, this is mafia. That's a really threadbare analysis. Would you mind elaborating on it?

[immortal feud]

IW: Why specifically did you target me as guard? A mafia FFQ would be probably almost useless by now, as most of the abilities are known already, but a town FFQ can still be useful in finding some roles, and moreover, I provided all the information that I gained as a result of me using my ability so I don't know why you would every target me.

immortal feud: From your posts, you seem totally lost, and unable to provide any meaningful information or read. Espithel mentioned he hates his team, and I am confident that part of that information is at least half true, and someone that can't be bothered to at least follow what has been posted seems like a good enough reason. You also said that you are voting 'for the memes', so my question is: are you actually following the game, and if so, what's your view of the game, who do you think is mafia?

good read on me i am pretty lost on how to play. I have taken more interest in the game as players have got killed as more town responsibility lies on me and i am more able to participate. I think the game is not going good for town. I dont know what kind of information i was expecting the town to gather throughout the game but what we have dosent feel like much. Im starting to think more mafia than just espi have high post count this game.

Alive:
2. Linkcat
5. immortal_feud
7. ddevans96
9. InsignificantWeeaboo
12. Mobian
14. mathman101
15. RootRanger
16. shockcannon
17. Ginyu
18. Calindu

so the question is what 3 do i pick:
link dd both are starting to feel scummy to me
leaning towards IW as the 3rd

[shockcannon]

ddevans96 (5) - Calindu, MasterWalks, InsignificantWeeaboo, Linkcat, kaempfer13
InsignificantWeeaboo (6) - dawn to dusk, immortal feud, RootRanger, shockcannon, ddevans96, moehrpi
Mobian (2) - Iancudorinmarian, mathman101
iancudorinmarian (3) - Espithel, Mobian

Insig is neutral but chaotic for me. dd is town lean with a lot of information attached to his lynch. But I'll give you an out.

[immortal feud]

Welp.

While I wait for people to start shit:

immortal feud (1) - Espithel

feel like espithel is mafia
feel like link and shock are town

C'mon, this is mafia. That's a really threadbare analysis. Would you mind elaborating on it?

what are you drawing attention to