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MasterWalks · « **Reply #732 on:** June 03, 2019, 07:59:30 pm »

Alright. I know we said 3 targets until GN reveal. But we haven't lynched a single mafia and its getting to lynch or die.

I am Golden Nymph

I targeted Espithel N0. He is Mafia

I targeted Kaempfer13 N3. He is Town

the coffee block was on a fate egg GN.

Sorry...

RootRanger · « **Reply #733 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:02:24 pm »

I would recommend counterclaiming if anyone else is the true GN. As discussed in chat, mafia likely knows who GN is anyways, and believing a false GN would ruin us at this point in the game.

Otherwise, I'd be inclined to believe MW and lynch Espi. Seems like an easy choice.

mathman101 · « **Reply #734 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:04:22 pm »

Quote from: MasterWalks on June 03, 2019, 07:59:30 pm

Alright. I know we said 3 targets until GN reveal. But we haven't lynched a single mafia and its getting to lynch or die.

I am Golden Nymph

I targeted Espithel N0. He is Mafia

I targeted Kaempfer13 N3. He is Town

the coffee block was on a fate egg GN.

Sorry...

I feel like this should have waited until the start of day phase rather then during the night when mafia can still switch NK targets.

If there is another angel, someone should be protecting him if this is true.

MasterWalks · « **Reply #735 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:11:52 pm »

Quote from: mathman101 on June 03, 2019, 08:04:22 pm

Quote from: MasterWalks on June 03, 2019, 07:59:30 pm
Alright. I know we said 3 targets until GN reveal. But we haven't lynched a single mafia and its getting to lynch or die.

I am Golden Nymph

I targeted Espithel N0. He is Mafia

I targeted Kaempfer13 N3. He is Town

the coffee block was on a fate egg GN.

Sorry...

I feel like this should have waited until the start of day phase rather then during the night when mafia can still switch NK targets.

If there is another angel, someone should be protecting him if this is true.

First off, angel should target kaempf, i cant be protected.

Secondly, no. It makes no difference if i revealed tonight or next day phase. If i revealed this night, i get all my info out and dont risk being NK'd without letting people know kaempf is town. (You guys probably wouldve lynched espi if i was revealed GN at NK). I cant use ability tonight so cant gather anymore info. they can kill me tonight or next night, it doesnt matter. But i will die on one of those nights

kaempfer13 · « **Reply #736 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:19:31 pm »

Updated lynchlog:

Spoiler for lynchlog:

Spoiler for Day1:

Spoiler for Day2:

Spoiler for day3:

Espithel · « **Reply #737 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:34:00 pm »

Quote from: MasterWalks on June 03, 2019, 07:59:30 pm

Alright. I know we said 3 targets until GN reveal. But we haven't lynched a single mafia and its getting to lynch or die.

I am Golden Nymph

I targeted Espithel N0. He is Mafia

I targeted Kaempfer13 N3. He is Town

the coffee block was on a fate egg GN.

Sorry...

Finally, you admit what was obvious from day one.

That took you far too long.

MasterWalks · « **Reply #738 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:42:06 pm »

Quote from: MasterWalks on June 03, 2019, 07:59:30 pm

Alright. I know we said 3 targets until GN reveal. But we haven't lynched a single mafia and its getting to lynch or die.

I am Golden Nymph

I targeted Espithel N0. He is Mafia

I targeted Kaempfer13 N3. He is Town

the coffee block was on a fate egg GN.

Sorry...

Typo. I targeted kaempf N2 not N3

Espithel · « **Reply #739 on:** June 03, 2019, 09:18:19 pm »

We'll make tomorrow an AMA, eh?

I'm basically the Mafia's mastermind. Ask Me Anything you're interested in about how we've played the game.

Provided I'm not directly throwing the game, I promise to answer everything truthfully. That's my playstyle - To never lie, and to always state cold, hard facts.

ddevans96 · « **Reply #740 on:** June 03, 2019, 09:31:07 pm »

@Root

People getting small details wrong is why I had to defend myself for two rounds, and why moe got lynched. In other words, it's why town is losing this game. People are overlooking things too much for it to be coincidence. Mafia realizes town is frantic and confused and is actively contributing to it.

To be clear - I'm not blaming or scumreading anyone for missing things. That would be dumb, as I've also done it this game. But I do think some members of mafia are mindful of things they've pretended not to be (moe being unavailable for the deadline, for instance) in order to force town to wade through more questions before coming to a conclusion. I think the iancu and moe lynches were their plans, ultimately.

I targeted myself last night, as shock and Cal, two of my bigger town reads at the time, recommended. Anyone is willing to target me this night and see what result they get.

I supported the moe lynch over shock because, by this time, I had realized what Link's play could be. If I moved train to shock, who I supported all game, he would portray it as me defending moe, my 'mafia buddy', and just serve to make me look more suspicious, and potentially lynched. Since I'm the only one I know for sure is town, I decided to take the bait.

If you're wondering, by that time, I no longer had a strong town read on shock.

I think the mafia contains, Link, Espi, math, and an active player. I would guess shock right now - your scenario of them both being mafia makes sense, even with me being town.

If Link is not mafia, I think you are. You're the only other one I could see having such a grand plan of town manipulation and being able to execute it. But I'm very sure it's Link. I think Espi would have ultimately died d1 if not for Link's push on me.

ddevans96 · « **Reply #741 on:** June 03, 2019, 09:34:15 pm »

Also - could be any low-activity player, I just think math bc of Link's alternative lynch suggestions. But there's a ton of WIFOM involved there, so we'll find out more later.

Linkcat · « **Reply #742 on:** June 03, 2019, 10:10:38 pm »

I'm just going to reply to some stuff I see while reading through chat.

My thanks to dd for immortality was sincere, I really thought he targeted me, and yes, it's a good role.

[12:44:16] ‹Calindu› There are enough people that want to push a lynch on one of dd/Link/shock, can we actually force one and disregard their attempts to lynch another afk?

I tried to do this yesterday but couldn't get the votes. I have never wanted to lynch an afk, since it doesn't really help us.

Confirm I am FFQ. Targeted dd Night 0 since I thought he would be the most popular target. I was wrong. Targeted iancu Night 1 since I thought he would be the most popular target. Wrong again. Targeted kaempfer Night 2 because he was my scumread and I wanted to see what was going on with him. Saw Precog and assumed he was GN. I made up a reason to change my read on him and this is why when dd asked me about my read flip(s) I just said "I have my reasons." I thought kaempfer picked up on this when he said in chat that he found a reason I could be town but it was really flimsy. Now that we know he's not GN, I don't know what he was referring to there.

MW being GN is pure lol. I'll have to look back through Day 1 to see how Espi being mafia changes things.

Ignore everything Espi says, obviously.

kaempfer13 · « **Reply #743 on:** June 03, 2019, 10:17:22 pm »

My townreads:

2. Linkcat - ffq n
5. immortal feud - n
6. kaempfer13 - yes
7. ddevans96 - Anubis n
9. InsignificantWeeaboo - Warden v
10. Espithel - green n apparently vv (just kidding, we'll get at least one after all)
11. MasterWalks - gn yes
12. Mobian - Amber Nymph v
14. mathman101 - n
15. RootRanger - n
16. shockcannon - Mind flayer - Dubious v
17. Ginyu - n
18. Calindu - FFQ vv

shock and mobian are highly debatable. I argue they are just terrible at the game

With GN claimed the only roles worth protecting are crusader and vulture.

Spoiler for lynchlog:

Spoiler for Day1:

Spoiler for Day2:

Spoiler for day3:

Poll

Who played the best mafia?

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MasterWalks

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MasterWalks

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ddevans96

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ddevans96

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Linkcat

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kaempfer13

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