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Who played the best mafia?

JonathanCrazyJ
5 (11.4%)
InsignificantWeeaboo
0 (0%)
shockcannon
5 (11.4%)
dawn to dusk
2 (4.5%)
Coffeeditto
0 (0%)
DoubleCapitals
2 (4.5%)
iancudorinmarian
9 (20.5%)
Submachine
9 (20.5%)
MasterWalks
0 (0%)
Naii_the_Baf
0 (0%)
Mobian
2 (4.5%)
PlayerOa
3 (6.8%)
mathman101
5 (11.4%)
NoobRanger
2 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: May 20, 2019, 05:38:38 am

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289086#msg1289086
« Reply #408 on: May 13, 2019, 06:20:45 am »
Mafia 71 will be hosted with a modified version of this ruleset. After that, we can talk.

I've added a poll where you can vote for who played the best. Based solely on the play seen in this game, if we ran 1000 games with the same players, who would have the highest winrate? This is what your votes should be based on.
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289088#msg1289088
« Reply #409 on: May 13, 2019, 06:46:31 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289090#msg1289090
« Reply #410 on: May 13, 2019, 06:59:37 am »
As soon as Sub claimed Psion, I went to Link claiming I knew that he was mafia. Turns out I was correct. Woo!

Shock played well, but ruined my plan (which ended up not going through anyway because of the Psion). We had a discussion about it afterwards, and while what he said makes sense, I'm still not a huge fan of how he played it out. My plan was basically, I'm Vulture so I take DC's ability, while bluffing Graboid. Then Shock called JCJ out for being Graboid and everything fell flat.

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The shock lynch was terrible. He was a super obvious town. No mafia would ever play like shock did in this game.

Most people wanted him out because they didn't like how he was playing. It turned out well but it could very easily do the opposite. Though I'll admit that he did do very well in finding who mafia was

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289091#msg1289091
« Reply #411 on: May 13, 2019, 07:15:51 am »
I think there's two sides to that debate, and both are right - it seemed pretty clear that shock was playing 'chaotic good', so to speak, but at the same time, I have no issue with 'lynch all liars' as a general policy, especially in early game.
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289092#msg1289092
« Reply #412 on: May 13, 2019, 07:17:06 am »
I found dawn on Night 2 with Psion; I found DC without Psion because he publicly gave his role away by barely hidden context clues. Same goes for PlayerOa.

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289093#msg1289093
« Reply #413 on: May 13, 2019, 08:07:28 am »
You wanna hear the real joke???

Guess who my N1 target was. Cmon.

I'm a fucking useless sack of shit and nothing I did mattered.

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289094#msg1289094
« Reply #414 on: May 13, 2019, 08:09:27 am »
Ebwop also shock was like, the best mafia member in the team. If you guys didn't kill me you'd never hear the end of my rants of him. You guys lucked out.
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289096#msg1289096
« Reply #415 on: May 13, 2019, 08:18:15 am »
Ebwop never mind it's in link's spoiler. Like what the f guys.

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My N1 target was simple. Pick someone mafia loves to hide and town rarely suspects till the end. While he was the current Master of Mafia he wasn't fierce enough to argue like some vets here are (tbf neither am I, but I can't invest myself)  I thought he'd lie low enough for it to pay off.

I didn't expect it to be this low.

Mobian vote was nothing to do with my role; I just went with my wildly accusing whoever with my vote,  as if I got some shitty town role that didn't matter. My reasoning was still based on nothing more than "No Lynch D1 helps scum more than town, but since everyone is gonna FTC (or more specifically Root rather than the cop) my 1 puny ads vote wouldn't matter anyway. Apparently I actually hit mafia,  and because I told Root I didn't invest him he decided not to vote Mobian (though rightfully so).

I'm still salty over this tbh. I won't be back.
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289104#msg1289104
« Reply #416 on: May 13, 2019, 02:51:34 pm »
My reasons for (correctly) lynching Coffeeditto were that he was lying and hiding information from me. shockcannon was also lying, and InsignificantWeeaboo was also hiding information from me. If civilians had taken the simple strategy of "don't lie and give your confirmed civilian all your info," this game would have been over much sooner. Note that I suspected Submachine as well because he hid one of his targets from me, but he was lower on my list because other civilians (ie Weeaboo) had been hiding all of their targets from me.

The vote on iancu was mostly because his Pharoah target was Mobian - at that point, my primary suspicion was on Sub/iancu/Mobian, and I felt I had a better chance at claiming a mafia by lynching two people at once instead of just one.

I also disagree with the mentality of everyone freely giving their roles away to whoever asks. If mafia knows everyone's secondary roles, our most powerful secondary roles are going to be lynched early. And the more civs who reveal their role, the higher the odds that mafia will find a power role.

The night kill on DoubleCapitals was a stroke of bad luck, but I wasn't at all surprised when dawn to dusk was night killed too, because mafia could narrow down the Vulture to a handful of players sheerly by process of elimination. This is in part why I lynched shockcannon - soliciting roles from players and revealing them to everyone is in my opinion a poor strategy when there are power roles that need to be hidden.
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289105#msg1289105
« Reply #417 on: May 13, 2019, 02:54:24 pm »
Oh right shock. Very obviously town (I know based on his play he got a shit town role) but the best mafia member.
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289108#msg1289108
« Reply #418 on: May 13, 2019, 04:29:26 pm »
Oh right shock. Very obviously town (I know based on his play he got a shit town role) but the best mafia member.

Shock did well up to outing people's roles.

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1289111#msg1289111
« Reply #419 on: May 13, 2019, 05:03:22 pm »
I recognized the strategy that shock was using. Norman used something like it in The Promised Neverland.

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