Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat

[RootRanger]

Mobian (2) - iancudorinmarian, Submachine
shockcannon (6) - MasterWalks, Mobian, PlayerOa, InsignificantWeeaboo, Coffeeditto, RootRanger
Coffeeditto (1) - shockcannon

[shockcannon]

shockcannon - otyugh (I have not attempted to use my role)
mobian - guardian angel (has supposedly targeted me and JCJ with the intent of looking for the graboid)
Coffeeditto - mind flayer (Naii night 0, Insig night 1)
InsignificantWeeaboo- fate egg
JCJ - graboid

[shockcannon]

The whole reason I'm flipping onto you is because following my discussion with MasterWalks, we both realized that you had lied to both of us.

Literally didn't lie to you. I'm otyugh like I told you at the end of our first conversation night 0. I EVEN TOLD YOU I was going to pretend like I had other roles to people. It's really too bad I'm not allowed to post all the PMs with you that I saved because you would be looking extremely suspect right now. I also knew you were mafia after you started ignoring questions about InsignificantWeeaboo. There's no reason to deflect attention on a player unless you're both mafia.

I know Root's voting for me now, but when I'm lynched and revealed as town 2 things will happen:

1.) You will realize how terrible of a plan it was to lynch Root
2.) You will know that Coffeeditto and InsignificantWeeaboo are mafia

[shockcannon]

For emphasis:

1.) You will realize how terrible of a plan it was to lynch Root
2.) You will know that Coffeeditto and InsignificantWeeaboo are mafia

Don't forget point 2 when I'm dead.

[Mobian]

How, exactly, will your death prove that? The only thing your death will prove is your identity, and literally nothing else.

[dawn to dusk]

Claiming the roles of people is a massive detriment. Mafia gains more from the information than civs do. They have knowledge of primary roles, as well as knowledge of each other's roles. They innately have more information than us, as is the nature of the game, and yet you're openly willing to grant that information to mafia. It's hard to see you as a mafia, if you know roles then you can easily just keep them to yourself and not worry about telling town, and the fact that you're basically asking to die at this point, not something that I can see scum doing. That being said, for the love of everything, stop posting roles.




We should note that Root didn't vote Mobian. Considering the recent pages, it's hard to say if this is to get Shock out, or because DC didn't actually target Mobian. Mafia's kill on him is still suspicious, mind you, but it might not be for the reasons we initially thought. We'll see what happens in later days, at least

[Linkcat]

[17:27:03] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Why’s this discussion about mafia in this chat not being posted on the thread
[17:27:49] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› are you Linkcat?
[17:27:56] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› No
[17:27:57] ‹Linkcat› Yes
[17:27:59] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Oh sorry
[17:28:05] ‹dawn_to_dusk› ‹@MasterWalks› Nah the more recent one
[17:28:13] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› are you playing mafia?
[17:28:20] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Like the convo that started more than an hour ago
[17:28:35] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› ‹@MasterWalks› no
[17:28:43] ‹dawn_to_dusk› I don't have the chat history to copy the whole thing
[17:29:17] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Yh someone else should. Unless someone is trying to hide stuff.
[17:30:44] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Lets just pester Link to do it
[17:31:17] ‹serprex› Y'all need to get a discord channel & stop spamming blab

[Linkcat]

Spoiler for Hidden:

[10:52:42] ‹Guest-MinorPhoenix-cfa05› Who’s role do I reveal next?
[10:52:57] ‹Guest-MinorPhoenix-cfa05› JCJ, master, or dawn?
[11:04:03] ‹Mobian› Hurry up and finish self destructing so we can move on with our day
[11:11:33] ‹Guest-MinorPhoenix-cfa05› It’s funny how everyone’s response to me is even more predictable than my actions
[11:12:19] ‹Guest-MinorPhoenix-cfa05› Noob mafia revealing themselves by jumping on the first opportunity to suspect shock
[11:12:55] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[11:13:23] ‹Guest-MinorPhoenix-cfa05› Complaining that shock will be predictable and make a big scene even as a townie and then when I do make a big scene play it off as, only a mafia would do that
[11:13:45] ‹Guest-MinorPhoenix-cfa05› Easiest reads of my life. Next time mafia, try a little harder to conceal yourselves
[11:14:23] ‹Mobian› This chat is full of hot air again. -.-
[11:14:46] ‹TheonlyrealBeef› ignite
[11:16:27] ‹MasterWalks› Is shock making his own plea deal? Lol
[11:18:05] ‹Guest-MinorPhoenix-cfa05› When I die and I’m town you’ll realize you’ve been played
[11:18:17] ‹Guest-MinorPhoenix-cfa05› When that happens, make sure you hang coffee and insig
[11:49:41] ‹Mobian› Looks like everyone is waiting on root
[16:09:15] ‹Mobian› Well, I guess DC didn't feel I was mafia after all.
[16:11:36] ‹shockcannon› ooh WC
[16:11:38] ‹shockcannon› nice
[16:22:19] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› @Linkcat Can you tell Mobian that I’m not shock and to be respectful
[16:22:47] ‹shockcannon› ^yeah he's not shock *wink*
[16:23:22] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› ‹@shockcannon› by the way, I believe in you
[16:23:44] ‹shockcannon› lol I appreciate it
[16:23:46] ‹shockcannon› that makes 1
[16:23:50] ‹shockcannon› maybe serp so 2
[16:24:26] ‹shockcannon› wait are you talking about mafia or WC
[16:24:41] ‹shockcannon› because I really don't care about mafia
[16:25:02] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Both
[16:25:04] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Not caring enough to post 19 times...
[16:25:21] ‹shockcannon› I dont care if people believe me
[16:25:49] ‹shockcannon› I just needed to get my info out so at the end of the game everyone will be like, "crap if we had just trusted shock we would've won in like 4 days"
[16:27:05] ‹MasterWalks› Hard to trust someone who lies to at least 4 different people and gets caught doing it
[16:27:20] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› ^
[16:27:29] ‹shockcannon› lol
[16:27:34] ‹shockcannon› I literally only lied to you
[16:27:50] ‹shockcannon› unless you count me claiming schrodinger cat in the thread but I thought that was an obvious troll post
[16:28:00] ‹MasterWalks› Your going to make me blush
[16:28:22] ‹shockcannon› everyone's acting like I've been lying to everyone
[16:28:29] ‹shockcannon› it's literally just masterwalks lol
[16:28:59] ‹shockcannon› I love how coffeeditto feels betrayed that I told him the truth while telling masterwalks a lie
[16:29:26] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› At the same time, how do we know you've only lied to MW?
[16:29:36] ‹shockcannon› okay
[16:29:36] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› You expect us to take your word for it?
[16:29:39] ‹shockcannon› lets start with you insig
[16:29:43] ‹shockcannon› when have I lied to you?
[16:29:52] ‹shockcannon› I asked you to rate how suspicious masterwalks was
[16:29:53] ‹shockcannon› that was it
[16:30:04] ‹shockcannon› and then I told you what he said about you when I asked him the same question
[16:30:11] ‹shockcannon› and that was actually truth, master can confirm it
[16:30:25] ‹shockcannon› I actually have all the PMs saved so I could confirm myself if that were allowed
[16:30:45] ‹shockcannon› now let's move on to mobian
[16:30:52] ‹shockcannon› I've NEVER PMed mobian once
[16:31:01] ‹shockcannon› I only stuff about him through masterwalks
[16:31:35] ‹shockcannon› Now lets move on to JCJ
[16:31:41] ‹shockcannon› he actually posted what I PM'ed
[16:31:57] ‹shockcannon› if any of you caught that you'll know I never made any claims
[16:32:37] ‹shockcannon› All I said in that PM was, "watch out for who jumps on the chance to vote for me after I ask a suspicious question about how GA works"
[16:32:58] ‹shockcannon› Moving on to coffeeditto: i told him I was otyugh. that's the truth
[16:33:28] ‹shockcannon› Moving on to playeroa: I asked him if he wanted to exchange info. he denied. that was the end of that
[16:33:31] ‹shockcannon› same thing with dawn
[16:33:33] ‹shockcannon› same thing with ian
[16:33:39] ‹shockcannon› that leaves only masterwalks that I lied to
[16:33:45] ‹shockcannon› but I enjoy the rumor spreading
[16:33:52] ‹shockcannon› makes it feel like people are afraid of me
[16:33:56] ‹shockcannon›
[16:34:05] ‹MasterWalks› Sounds like you lied to the wrong person
[16:34:26] ‹shockcannon› then the blood of an innocent town will be on your hands
[16:34:40] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› dude it's just a game
[16:34:59] ‹MasterWalks› I actually stated in my vote that you might not be mafia
[16:35:02] ‹shockcannon› and you think I'm taking this seriously?
[16:35:15] ‹MasterWalks› But you weren't working for the town.
[16:35:30] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› 19 posts and at least 90% of the chat screen consisting of you tells me otherwise
[16:35:43] ‹MasterWalks› And your big shpeel proves that
[16:35:52] ‹shockcannon› 90% of the chat is always me
[16:36:04] ‹shockcannon› I'm having an absolute blast right now
[16:37:03] ‹shockcannon› You can disagree but information always helps town
[16:37:25] ‹MasterWalks› In fact, this was one of the best lynches we could've done. We just got a crap ton of info if it's true, and we lynched someone who was being scummy with the rest of the town.
[16:37:48] ‹shockcannon› lol being scummy
[16:37:50] ‹shockcannon› I did you all of favor
[16:37:53] ‹MasterWalks› You being mafia would've just been a cherry on top
[16:38:04] ‹shockcannon› I cut the bullshit of beating around the bush and trying to figure out people's roles
[16:38:14] ‹shockcannon› I gave you all the roles and now all you have to do is use your deduction skills
[16:40:12] ‹shockcannon› The only reason you're getting a "crap ton of info" is because I was "being scummy"
[16:40:16] ‹shockcannon› how ironic
[16:42:56] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› yeah but you could have done it in a way that no one suspects you as mafia
[16:45:15] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[16:45:49] ‹dawn_to_dusk› What on earth is mafia turning into
[16:47:17] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› I dunno
[16:48:37] ‹MasterWalks› Is mafia not normally like this?
[16:49:29] ‹Linkcat› Not this early.
[16:51:17] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Shock you're an idiot
[16:51:18] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Omfw
[16:51:23] ‹dawn_to_dusk› I'm sorry
[16:53:42] ‹dawn_to_dusk› That one post made me legitimately mad
[16:54:10] ‹MasterWalks› The post where he ratted everyone out?

[Coffeeditto]

The whole reason I'm flipping onto you is because following my discussion with MasterWalks, we both realized that you had lied to both of us.

Literally didn't lie to you. I'm otyugh like I told you at the end of our first conversation night 0. I EVEN TOLD YOU I was going to pretend like I had other roles to people. It's really too bad I'm not allowed to post all the PMs with you that I saved because you would be looking extremely suspect right now. I also knew you were mafia after you started ignoring questions about InsignificantWeeaboo. There's no reason to deflect attention on a player unless you're both mafia.

I know Root's voting for me now, but when I'm lynched and revealed as town 2 things will happen:

1.) You will realize how terrible of a plan it was to lynch Root
2.) You will know that Coffeeditto and InsignificantWeeaboo are mafia

I don't like arguing for the sake of arguing, but I want to set the record straight.

I never ignored any questions about Insig; you asked twice and I said I read him as town the first time and wasn't sure the second time. Feel free to check your logs. There was a time when you asked me for my opinions on everyone and I failed to mention him, but user error; I forgot about him momentarily and then had to leave before we finished our conversation. I also by happenstance forgot to read DC, but you fail to mention that.

You initially said when talking with me that your alliance would be "with me and no one else". I don't care if your alliance was with other people or not, but you did lie right then and there. That's no reason to suspect you, but don't say you never lied. You communicated with others.

Upon talking with MasterWalks, you told me that he believed Mobian and Insig were mafia but he imnmediately cleared that up and said he didn't. Why lie?

I have no idea what your goal was with sharing all of this misinformation but enough lines have been crossed to cement my thoughts for now.

I'm sorry if you're taking any of this personally, by the way. I don't like to be overly aggressive ever.

[iancudorinmarian]

Mobian (1) - Submachine
shockcannon (7) - MasterWalks, Mobian, PlayerOa, InsignificantWeeaboo, Coffeeditto, RootRanger, iancudorinmarian
Coffeeditto (1) - shockcannon

I guess Root knows more than I do at this point. If shock actually proves to be mafia, it might mean that DC voted on Mobian on a hunch after all and switched to shock after because he knew shock is the real mafia.

Either way, I'm still keeping an eye on you, Mobian.

[iancudorinmarian]

And yeah, I agree with dawn, revealing roles was a terrible mistake.

[Linkcat]

Night 2

Spoiler for Lore:

Out of the doorway, the bullets rip.

shockcannon was lynched. He was an Elemental and an Otyugh.

Night 2 has ended.