Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat

[JonathanCrazyJ]

Root -

Phoenix - Passive
Ash - If you die and you are an Elemental, you may still vote, but you may not talk in the thread, send PMs, or or communicate in any way with another player. No other player may communicate with you in any way other than a personal message on the forum that contains only text. You may not attempt to use your vote to communicate with other players. If you die and you are a False God, you may still post and communicate with other players. Ash is not counted for parity.

Not a good idea, especially when a dead phoenix won't count towards our end-game total.

but confirmed town can PM town-dead-phoenix. Then town-dead-phoenix can vote first. All town then know to vote for TDP's vote, and we have a mouth for the town confirmed alliance, without any of them revealing themselves as town. It creates an unkillable mouthpiece for secret town, and essentially makes confirmed town as powerful as mafia.

[Coffeeditto]

I would love it if it were that simple, but if I'm understanding that phrase in the text correctly, the phoenix can't tell us who to vote for with their vote.

[Mobian]

(New player question: Are votes public posts, or simply polls used during the day cycle?)

[Coffeeditto]

Votes are posts, with a format like this:

Coffeeditto (2) - Espithel, UTAlan
UTAlan (1) - Coffeeditto

The person on the left is the person being voted on (going to be lynched), the number is how many players are voting on them, and the names on the right are who is voting on that person.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

I would love it if it were that simple, but if I'm understanding that phrase in the text correctly, the phoenix can't tell us who to vote for with their vote.

my reading is that they can't give further information, or switch votes to form a sentence with first letters.. how can they vote but not communicate with a vote? the vote is saying "I think this person is mafia" we can message them, ergo they can pool the information they receive and put a simple vote, no other text, just "this is who I think is mafia" like anyone else voting.

[Coffeeditto]

I would love it if it were that simple, but if I'm understanding that phrase in the text correctly, the phoenix can't tell us who to vote for with their vote.

my reading is that they can't give further information, or switch votes to form a sentence with first letters.. how can they vote but not communicate with a vote? the vote is saying "I think this person is mafia" we can message them, ergo they can pool the information they receive and put a simple vote, no other text, just "this is who I think is mafia" like anyone else voting.

The way that this is being phrased leads me to believe that Link didn't intend to allow a lynhc based entirely on the Phoenix's tells, but we should wait and see what Link has to say. It is kind of obscure writing.

[Mobian]

Votes are posts, with a format like this:

Coffeeditto (2) - Espithel, UTAlan
UTAlan (1) - Coffeeditto

The person on the left is the person being voted on (going to be lynched), the number is how many players are voting on them, and the names on the right are who is voting on that person.

So everyone voting has to carry on the former post, and add to it? Wouldn't a base poll be easier?

[Coffeeditto]

It's usually more convenient for everyone to make a new post to see when things change ore get removed or stuff.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

Votes are posts, with a format like this:

Coffeeditto (2) - Espithel, UTAlan
UTAlan (1) - Coffeeditto

The person on the left is the person being voted on (going to be lynched), the number is how many players are voting on them, and the names on the right are who is voting on that person.

no it wouldn't because you need to see who voted for who for the following day. You can learn a lot by who voted for who, and when in teh chain. If a mafia gets lunched unanimously, the ones who moved their vote half way through, or voted towards the end MIGHT be more suspect. Later rounds you need to read back a lot to analyse voting patterns
So everyone voting has to carry on the former post, and add to it? Wouldn't a base poll be easier?

[JonathanCrazyJ]

EBWOP: oops i put my answer to mobian within his quote. should be:

Q: So everyone voting has to carry on the former post, and add to it? Wouldn't a base poll be easier?

A: no it wouldn't because you need to see who voted for who for the following day. You can learn a lot by who voted for who, and when in teh chain. If a mafia gets lunched unanimously, the ones who moved their vote half way through, or voted towards the end MIGHT be more suspect. Later rounds you need to read back a lot to analyse voting patterns

[Mobian]

I think I understand now. Thank you for clarifying, everyone!

[Linkcat]

Ash votes for whoever they want to lynch as if they were playing normally and literally nothing else.They can base this decision on whatever information they choose.

Day 1 may be delayed up to 8 hours after the deadline as I am helping my brother move.