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Who played the best mafia?

JonathanCrazyJ
5 (11.4%)
InsignificantWeeaboo
0 (0%)
shockcannon
5 (11.4%)
dawn to dusk
2 (4.5%)
Coffeeditto
0 (0%)
DoubleCapitals
2 (4.5%)
iancudorinmarian
9 (20.5%)
Submachine
9 (20.5%)
MasterWalks
0 (0%)
Naii_the_Baf
0 (0%)
Mobian
2 (4.5%)
PlayerOa
3 (6.8%)
mathman101
5 (11.4%)
NoobRanger
2 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: May 20, 2019, 05:38:38 am

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288736#msg1288736
« Reply #348 on: May 07, 2019, 09:40:03 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288737#msg1288737
« Reply #349 on: May 07, 2019, 09:40:25 pm »
Oh wow this came out of nowhere.
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288738#msg1288738
« Reply #350 on: May 07, 2019, 09:42:32 pm »
Also, forgot to mention.

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288749#msg1288749
« Reply #351 on: May 08, 2019, 03:49:51 am »
Current votes:
mathman101 (3) - iancudorinmarian, Submachine, Mobian
Submachine (2) - PlayerOa, mathman101
iancudorinmarian (1) - RootRanger
Mobian (1) - Naii_the_Baf

I don't want to lose another civ, and know that by having myself die does not help the civ team win this.

Sub, iancu, Mobi - I don't know what to say to try and convince you that I am a civilian as I have shared every last drop of info I know. If there is something more you are looking for to help justify that I am not mafia, I will try my best to make it happen.

Oa, Root, Naii - we are currently all split on targets. By splitting our votes, we are essentially just agreeing that myself is mafia and is just as potent as if you had all voted on me. As I would much rather not die today so that another civilian is not killed, I am willing to change my target if we can all agree on one. I would much rather see Sub lynched, followed by iancu if possible, but am willing to target Mobi if that is what it takes for all 4 of us to agree and outweigh the 3 votes on me.


Also, I want to ask this: If we lynch me tonight and I turn out to be mafia, what happens next? Oa is unable to use his information role on the next night due to its success last night. I will no longer be around to provide more info regarding who is targeting who. Sub's psion powers will be useless as we have all claimed already publicly here. iancu as pharaoh won't be of great use unless he fears being lynched/Nightkilled(not really useful for mafia here, as this doesn't help them in anyway as it can only kill mafia not civy).  Naii/Mobi protect Oa with the Angel abilities in hopes to keep him around for a final showdown attempt in Night 6.
Also if I turn up as mafia, then who is the final remaining mafia? There is no one I have been overly avoiding nor overly protecting. If you look at my interactions the closest would be my minor bickering with Sub over activity, but I suspected him as scummy. Next best would be Oa who I said was only somewhat civ-ish in my scum reads, but that as I stated and Sub stated may have just been the right place at the right time type of coincidence.



Another thought is what happens if we tie the votes and cause a no-lynch? We will still have 4C-2M into the night, and then should have 3C-2M for the next day (possibly still 4C-2M if Angel can protect a correct target). This would still give us an advantage over mafia and leads us to not risking killing a civ by accident forcing the end of game today. then tomorrow would become the sudden death do or die day, as a 3c-2m would push into either 2c-2m(forcing the loss at start of day 7) or 3c-1m(forcing a 2c-1m start of day 7). This plan would then give us one additional day over our current plan of lets lynch someone and hope they are mafia based on a 33% chance guess from the firefly.




Currently after seeing what has been said today while I was at work and unable to be online my scum reading is:
MAFIA--------------------------------CIV
iancu/Sub > Mobi > Naii > Oa


For now I will not switch my target as it would just change to having 2 on another target(still lower than 3), but if I see others switch in a way that we can get 4 votes on a player that is not me I will follow suit.
I'll try to give a check in the morning when I wake up before heading to work, and will do my best to check on mobile while at work if possible. Most likely won't be able to do any last minute switches unfortunately due to local time the timer ends as I will still be at work, but I will do my best to check in if possible.


Here is the current timer for time remaining just as a reminder of how much time we have left to try and organize something if we plan on not killing the dragonfly(an information role):
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Day 4 has ended.
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288754#msg1288754
« Reply #352 on: May 08, 2019, 10:23:33 am »
So the current roles list is as follows:

iancu - Pharaoh
math - Dragonfly
Oa - Firefly
Sub - Psion
Mobian - Angel
Naii - Angel

There is a 100% chance that either Sub or math is mafia. (whether you believe I'm civvy or not, that's your problem)
There is a high chance that one of Naii or Mobian is mafia.

Seeing as Naii claims that he protected JCJ N1, that appears to be why my ability failed N1. N0 he probably burrowed. Of course, he might be lying and just came up with a crazy story, but I find that unlikely.

I think it's pretty risky to gamble at the moment, so let's try this:
- no lynch today
- Sub checks Naii if he's truly Guardian Angel
- Naii protects Oa
- Mobian protects Naii
- I'm keeping my curse on Mobian, not switching the target
- math checks Mobian to see if he targeted Naii

This way we have one of the following outcomes:
- one of math/Sub will die and we will know for sure the other is mafia.
- I will die and Mobian will either be revealed as FG or nothing will be revealed and he will be confirmed
- Mobian will die, and if he is revealed as GA, we will know Mobian is a fake GA or a scum GA (There's no way there are two town GA in the game and two town Psion)
- Oa will die and Naii is confirmed scum
- Naii will die and Mobian is confirmed scum

Any objections?

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288756#msg1288756
« Reply #353 on: May 08, 2019, 02:06:00 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288757#msg1288757
« Reply #354 on: May 08, 2019, 02:49:52 pm »

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I guess Root is trying to tell me that my plan is dumb and we should just take the 50/50 :silly:

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288759#msg1288759
« Reply #355 on: May 08, 2019, 04:21:36 pm »
I'll agree to your plan, ian, but I gotta say I dislike the lack of a safety net for me....

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288760#msg1288760
« Reply #356 on: May 08, 2019, 04:24:22 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288761#msg1288761
« Reply #357 on: May 08, 2019, 05:18:18 pm »
I don't see myself surviving this. TL;DR going with ian's plan is my only option to live until you can afford a mislynch. Then I'll go down without a word if you still think I'm mafia. :P

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288763#msg1288763
« Reply #358 on: May 08, 2019, 07:50:42 pm »
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May I just drop here a quote that I think perfectly fits the general theme of Mafia.
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This is unrelated to anything specific, it's a quote for any Mafia game, really.
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"At best, the products of human emotion, are interpretations of the world. They tell you more about the guy who's talking, than about the world he's talking about. Second hand views of the world, made third hand by your interpretation of them." - James Burke
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And maybe one more.
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"Of all the communities available to us, there is not one I would want to devote myself to, except for the society of the true searchers, which has very few living members at any time." - Albert Einstein
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If you found the Easter Egg, hats off to you, Sir.
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288764#msg1288764
« Reply #359 on: May 08, 2019, 08:18:39 pm »
I'm down for Ian's plan.

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