Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat

[Submachine]

I think I can disprove that. Reference: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-70-by-linkcat/msg1288566/#msg1288566

Insig making this post implies that he found a Psion when targeting you. But he probably misunderstood how the role works and assumed that you are the Psion.

We also know that Insig was Warden that night, so it makes sense that he blocked your ability.

[iancudorinmarian]

@PlayerOa, read the second paragraph of my analysis post. Also check the links.

[PlayerOa]

@PlayerOa, read the second paragraph of my analysis post. Also check the links.

I did, and it does make sense. Information is key at the moment, and I want to highlight several different scenarios for everyone but especially for Root to see. I just wanted to shed another light on the current situation where I can use actual confirmed information rather than qualified guesses. Coffee was next in line anyway, and the Insig post could mean something completely different, although your interpretation could by all means be right.

[PlayerOa]

ian, is your secondary role Pharaoh?

[iancudorinmarian]

Yeah, I can confirm I'm pharaoh.

[PlayerOa]

Yeah, I can confirm I'm pharaoh.

Target history?

[iancudorinmarian]

Night 0 - No target
Night 1 - JCJ - Thought he was fishy with all the "I usually like lynching day 1, but not this time", failed because he burrowed probably.
Night 2 - Insig - There was some suspicion on him at the time, so I targeted him to in case I got killed and he was indeed mafia
Night 3 - No target - so it was still insig
Night 4 - Targeted Mobian. I thought I'd die for sure this night so that was my attempt at confirming him once and for all.

[iancudorinmarian]

Actually, there might be some merit to suspecting Submachine. I just realized Kuro was a Psion, and I really don't think Link would let civvy have a duplicate information role.

[Linkcat]

All roles were randomized and would only have been rerolled in the case of an extremely unbalanced setup.

[iancudorinmarian]

Go away Link, this is none of your business.

[Naii_the_Baf]

Holy crow I completely forgot about this.

Posting now just in case timer finishes before I can post.

I haven't gone through what has happened yet.

I should ask whether there is something people want out of me so I can answer it later.

[Submachine]

So I know about myself that I am Town, so my choice is either iancu or math. Math coming out with this felt like he was on the side of the Firefly, but I took that with a grain of salt because I found math a bit shadier than ian beforehand. Then I realized that math did not form this plan, he just found out at the right time that he was targeted. Eventually all this information would have seen light, and admittedly, coming out with it first did feel like a Town-lean at first, while throwing shade on ian. He probably realized this, otherwise he could have just waited for Oa to say the same. Mafia using the counter-defense on the last day is something I have spotted in Mafia 50 before, and I was right about it that time.

This does not reveal to me whether math is Mafia, but it made me cautious about instantly trusting math. Before voting, I would like to hear ian's side of the story too.

I've read a few more pages from the link in my reasoning and I found more parallels between the current case and the precedent. My past self's conlusion convinced me to take a side in the matter;

If one of them has been active but the other only showed activity during the endgame, go after the inactive person.

mathman101 (2) - iancudorinmarian, Submachine
Submachine (1) - PlayerOa

I am aware that both people can be mafia, but I don't think rewarding inactivity is healthy in any mafia game. If math is mafia, then cool, but if ian is mafia, then at least he worked for it.