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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1260506#msg1260506
« Reply #1632 on: March 16, 2017, 03:51:24 pm »
You are not being careful about Ability 1 and Ability 2 distinction. The self-protecting BG-Ability#2 is above Jailor-Ability#1 but BG-Ability#1 _would be stopped_ or interrupted by Jailor-Ability#1.
I overlooked the numbering. >.< However, I noticed that Politican works before Jailor, so that could be used if we could sync Solaris for the plan.



A bit off-topic, but what about mathman's Hitman ability 2? It's there, and if used in agreement of the majority, it's like an extra lynch every night, just with a small delay.
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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1260507#msg1260507
« Reply #1633 on: March 16, 2017, 03:58:12 pm »
However, I noticed that Politican works before Jailor, so that could be used if we could sync Solaris for the plan.

Maybe. We could do something like:

- Coffee protects UTAlan
- Observer observes UTAlan
- Solaris redirects Coffee to UTAlan

Then Doctor has the choice of protecting dd, rob, or Sol (or anyone else they think might be in danger, really). This plan would redirect any jailor attempt on Coffee to me (which will disable me from using the ability I don't have available). It would also ensure that Coffee protects me, or reveals who NK'd me if he doesn't protect me.

Thoughts?

A bit off-topic, but what about mathman's Hitman ability 2? It's there, and if used in agreement of the majority, it's like an extra lynch every night, just with a small delay.

I'm not opposed to this. I'd refer to Link's list of people to shoot if we're gonna go that route.

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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1260508#msg1260508
« Reply #1634 on: March 16, 2017, 04:03:51 pm »
@UTA I think rob is scum reading (or leaning, whatever) me because of my insistence on me scum leaning him. Which is fair to be honest, thats the whole rason we didnt kill math lsat day, I'm not concerned about it and put little weight behind it, since its not backed by a reason or anything.

now for my reads list! Huzzah. This isn't dont in an order or aynthing, just my thoughts on people.

dawn to dusk - Prolly bored/angry town that doesn't really want to play anymore. Mostly inconsequential to be honest.

fabian771 - Should talk more or we should lynch him, This deadline ticks ever forward.

UTAlan - Town or intel. Either way, is helping town

killsdazombies - das me

godisnowonline - claims jailor, but not jailor who hit fabian, correct? if so, its meaningless.

Solaris - Is constantly flopping from highly suspicious to not suspicious at all, and is overall, annoying to keep up with while medicated. Prolly dont lynch this guy yet

DoubleCapitals - pretty much the same boat as fabian, 20 posts in 140 pages is like nothing

JonathanCrazyJ - Dunno. Was pretty vocal in the early game but has quieted down significantly later. Sounds like someone trying to get towncred for vocalizing opinions, then quieting down when the scumhunt is on.

ddevans96 - Prolly town

rob77dp - like half my posts are minor scum reads on rob. Hes a good player, and his playstyle is relatively consistent accross the board.

iancudorinmarian - Was against luna the entire game, flopped as she flipped. I wouldn't hold it against him on its own, but compounded with other evidence it gains more merit

Submachine - Everyone wants to kill or save sub it seems. PRolly town tho

Coffeeditto - Dunno, tbh. Hes a hotbed of distrust and suspicion, but also has been attempting to be helpful? I'd still lynch him tbh

mathman101 - prolly town or intel

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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1260509#msg1260509
« Reply #1635 on: March 16, 2017, 04:05:31 pm »
Oh oh oh oh, for the next four days my activity will be primarily around 11pm - 2 AM at (-4 gmt) So question will go unanswered for a bit unless I hop on mobile.

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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1260510#msg1260510
« Reply #1636 on: March 16, 2017, 04:10:08 pm »
However, I noticed that Politican works before Jailor, so that could be used if we could sync Solaris for the plan.

Maybe. We could do something like:

- Coffee protects UTAlan
- Observer observes UTAlan
- Solaris redirects Coffee to UTAlan

Then Doctor has the choice of protecting dd, rob, or Sol (or anyone else they think might be in danger, really). This plan would redirect any jailor attempt on Coffee to me (which will disable me from using the ability I don't have available). It would also ensure that Coffee protects me, or reveals who NK'd me if he doesn't protect me.

Thoughts?
You mean for today or for odd/even nights?




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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1260512#msg1260512
« Reply #1637 on: March 16, 2017, 04:15:38 pm »
However, I noticed that Politican works before Jailor, so that could be used if we could sync Solaris for the plan.

Maybe. We could do something like:

- Coffee protects UTAlan
- Observer observes UTAlan
- Solaris redirects Coffee to UTAlan

Then Doctor has the choice of protecting dd, rob, or Sol (or anyone else they think might be in danger, really). This plan would redirect any jailor attempt on Coffee to me (which will disable me from using the ability I don't have available). It would also ensure that Coffee protects me, or reveals who NK'd me if he doesn't protect me.

Thoughts?
You mean for today or for odd/even nights?

This would be for tonight (and potentially future odd nights, as well).

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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1260514#msg1260514
« Reply #1638 on: March 16, 2017, 04:39:46 pm »
i can't redirect tonight~

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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1260515#msg1260515
« Reply #1639 on: March 16, 2017, 04:41:08 pm »
Then we can just have Coffee protect me and Observer watch me. Doctor(s) protect other important players / likely NK targets as you see fit

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« Reply #1640 on: March 16, 2017, 04:56:08 pm »
Then we can just have Coffee protect me and Observer watch me. Doctor(s) protect other important players / likely NK targets as you see fit
Popin -- Pros/Cons to observing you (UTA) -or- Coffee? I would think watching Coffee the better option because it could also snag a NK attempt if Coffee is Criminal?
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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1260518#msg1260518
« Reply #1641 on: March 16, 2017, 05:00:10 pm »
Then we can just have Coffee protect me and Observer watch me. Doctor(s) protect other important players / likely NK targets as you see fit
Popin -- Pros/Cons to observing you (UTA) -or- Coffee? I would think watching Coffee the better option because it could also snag a NK attempt if Coffee is Criminal?

Either way works. Either I'm observed and we catch the NK-er, or Coffee is observed and we A) catch a Criminal!Jailor, or B) catch a Criminal!Coffee if I get NK'd and nobody targeted Coffee.

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« Reply #1642 on: March 16, 2017, 08:42:27 pm »
Scratch the plan for tonight. Observer ability won't take effect until the next night. That means Coffee could do as he pleases and get away with it.

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« Reply #1643 on: March 16, 2017, 08:43:48 pm »
Scratch the plan for tonight. Observer ability won't take effect until the next night. That means Coffee could do as he pleases and get away with it.
Did you get any vibes that Coffee was onboard with it thinking he could do just that (get away with it)??
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