Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[iancudorinmarian]

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[godisnowonline]

I know I'm just saying that amongst the tinfoil right now I'm leaning dc, ian, and fabian as my 3 top scum picks. Ian then fabian then dc.

Just going forward to say that i am hoping that dc isn't scum but i'd rather he be the last lynch as those are the three i see the scum hiding among.
Otherwise sol has the greatest false claim in the history of mafia.

[rob77dp]

@rob, I have not started a Luna train because Sub was the next on my lynch list after www3. And yes. I  would have changed my vote, especially [to] someone on my scum list.

Hmmm, ok.

You would not -start- a Luna vote but you would jump off mathman there to have voted Luna?

[UTAlan]

My current reads.

Town, in descending order: UTA, dd, rob, gino, mathman, Sub, Sol, JCJ, fabian

Neutral, alphabetical order: dawn, DC, ian, kdz

Scum: Coffee



@rob:
Is your read of JCJ primarily based on his No Lynch stance? Was there more after that I'm forgetting?

Why ian and kdz on the scum end of things?

~ Max 1 between Coffee/Sol
~ Max 1 between gino/fabian/DC/ian
~ Max 1 between dawn/math/kdz

Coffee > ian > dawn/kdz

My town-reads right now:
UTA/dd > Sub/JCJ/gino > Sol/math > fabian/DC

I see the logic here and agree that this is likely the case. Something nice here is mafia has to risk hitting a protected town read player or reducing A) the pool of neutral-scum read players, or B) the pool of players from each section of Luna's read list.

[UTAlan]

Note that my question about Ian was typed before he joined the conversation here.

[iancudorinmarian]

I dont know what else to say to defend myself except I guess I said the right things at the wrong time or something like that

[UTAlan]

I dont know what else to say to defend myself except I guess I said the right things at the wrong time or something like that

Fwiw, Coffee is on the lynching block next, so you have plenty of time to show some town qualities before you're at risk for being lynched.

[iancudorinmarian]

I mean, to be fair, my role is pretty average (almost useless in fact), so I am not really that much against being a possible lynch target, but of course Id prefer not to get lynched.

[Coffeeditto]

[seriously trying to calm my jets... lynching a Criminal has my competitive juices flowing right now though, thank me later town]

3. dd being in Neutral is... well, I think it is telling -- dd had already all but been confirmed as town by the Link claims and death/flip. It either is lack of attention to details in the thread despite following it/posting (a scum-tell sometimes) or desire to keep dd on the table despite the Link stuff.

ddevans - I have no idea about him. I think he's slightly more town than neutral, but he could go either way. I know he's posted a lot, but I can't confidently call him either role. Possibly INT.

Does this take into consideration Link claiming cop, claiming I'm town, and flipping cop?

It didn't, as I forgot about that; that confirms you as town, though.

Rob, see above.

Alright, here's my last ditch effort to suggest my innocence.

Here's what I think happened: Lunaris knew she and/or I would be lynched soon, so, in a smart play, she started clinging to me. Constantly townreading, being certain I was town, and she knew I was town because I sure as hell am not mafia. So, by essentially binding our roles together, Luna made sure that if I was lynched and flipped town then she looked town and if she was lynched and flipped maf then I look maf. Win/win situation for maf either way here.

[UTAlan]

I mean, to be fair, my role is pretty average (almost useless in fact), so I am not really that much against being a possible lynch target, but of course Id prefer not to get lynched.

If you are town we don't want to lynch you. ^.^

[rob77dp]

I dont know what else to say to defend myself except I guess I said the right things at the wrong time or something like that

If you're not-Criminal take solace in the fact that the most probably POE will more than likely end the game before your name is up. If you are Criminal then you should probably be worried because parity is unlikely to be reached before that POE strangles you.

Not-Criminal you has a lot of reason to be happy then.

[godisnowonline]

Ok So slipping back to the op to start posting some thoughts and making sure we don't miss anyone for the reads list. A general compilation of what we know thus far.

Please stop me if we think that this is a bad idea