Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[UTAlan]

At this point, I support a Luna lynch.

[mathman101]

He was saying nobody counter-claimed you. As in, nobody else claims to be a Hitman who targeted Link on N2. (Which semi-clears you as town.)

ah, gotcha now. sorry misunderstood that.

[UTAlan]

Though I see DC is next in line, at this point. Started by dd, so that's something. Would like some reasoning on why DC over Luna. Imo, we should lynch Luna and ask the (theoretical) second hitman to assassinate DC on N3. Would confirm either no second hitman or scum hitman if DC doesn't get killed (though only theoretically b/c it could be an inactive/non-complicit town/Intel).

[rob77dp]

Coffeeditto (1) - Solaris
mathman101 (5) - iancudorinmarian, Lunaris, JonathanCrazyJ, gino, Coffeeditto
DoubleCapitals (3) - ddevans96, Submachine, rob77dp

mathman, I'm not seeing a counter claim... If you're town then expect me to be harping about a self-preservation vote from you. If you ask why I find that to be possibly alignment indicative I may type it in all caps.

sorry, I'm not seeing what I was supposed to counter claim, but maybe I missed something so I'll go double look through the last 2-3 pages.
Yes I can vote to at least try to save myself, but I was waiting until the last minute (err at least in the last hourish) because if I was going down, I wanted to go down in style and aid in my own death.

Do not wait until the ding-dong-dang last second to self-pres vote. That is not town beneficial. if you're town then from your perspective you are more certain of your being town than of ANY living player in the game now - including UTA or dd.

If you are town and want to live then you know you're town and should realize that town benefits from your NOT being the lynch.

[mathman101]

Coffeeditto (1) - Solaris
mathman101 (5) - iancudorinmarian, Lunaris, JonathanCrazyJ, gino, Coffeeditto
DoubleCapitals (3) - ddevans96, Submachine, rob77dp

mathman, I'm not seeing a counter claim... If you're town then expect me to be harping about a self-preservation vote from you. If you ask why I find that to be possibly alignment indicative I may type it in all caps.

sorry, I'm not seeing what I was supposed to counter claim, but maybe I missed something so I'll go double look through the last 2-3 pages.
Yes I can vote to at least try to save myself, but I was waiting until the last minute (err at least in the last hourish) because if I was going down, I wanted to go down in style and aid in my own death.

Do not wait until the ding-dong-dang last second to self-pres vote. That is not town beneficial. if you're town then from your perspective you are more certain of your being town than of ANY living player in the game now - including UTA or dd.

If you are town and want to live then you know you're town and should realize that town benefits from your NOT being the lynch.

fair point, I guess I wasn't thinking of it that way. sorry for needing stuff spelt out for me.


Coffeeditto (1) - Solaris
mathman101 (5) - iancudorinmarian, Lunaris, JonathanCrazyJ, gino, Coffeeditto
DoubleCapitals (4) - ddevans96, Submachine, rob77dp, mathman

in attempts to save myself so I can try and to help town better.

[UTAlan]

mathman's vote makes sense.

@dd, @rob, @Sub: Why DC?

@ian, @Luna, @JCJ, @gino, @Coffee: Do you still think Criminal!mathman lying his way out of a lynch? Or do you think a town/Intel lynch is beneficial to town in some way?

[UTAlan]

@dd, @rob, @Sub: Why DC?

Note that I have a bad memory, so you may have explained your vote at the time and I just forgot already. Also I may want another explanation anyway given the recent events.

[rob77dp]

mathman's vote makes sense.

@dd, @rob, @Sub: Why DC?

@ian, @Luna, @JCJ, @gino, @Coffee: Do you still think Criminal!mathman lying his way out of a lynch? Or do you think a town/Intel lynch is beneficial to town in some way?

Sorry on delay - multi-tabling AND trying to get a lot of work-work done too.

UTA -

Coffeeditto (1) - Solaris
mathman101 (5) - iancudorinmarian, Lunaris, JonathanCrazyJ, gino, Coffeeditto
DoubleCapitals (3) - ddevans96, Submachine, mathman
Lunaris (1) - rob77dp

This is where I _really_ want my not-Coffee not-math vote to go if we end up settling on NOT lynching either of them (Coffee/math).

[UTAlan]

mathman's vote makes sense.

@dd, @rob, @Sub: Why DC?

@ian, @Luna, @JCJ, @gino, @Coffee: Do you still think Criminal!mathman lying his way out of a lynch? Or do you think a town/Intel lynch is beneficial to town in some way?

Re-issuing this. Thanks, rob, for answering. Anyone else wanna chime in? 1 hour and 16 minutes remaining and this thread is silent. This will be an important lynch and I'd prefer to not have it go the way mafia wants it to because town is inactive.

[rob77dp]

Are you going to be in-thread as end-of-day approaches? I think town can benefit from us being around in a quantity or number that is able to swing votes and not get stuck being stale/static. (Some of you are still not even voting -- not good)

[mathman101]

Are you going to be in-thread as end-of-day approaches? I think town can benefit from us being around in a quantity or number that is able to swing votes and not get stuck being stale/static. (Some of you are still not even voting -- not good)

Yes, I plan to be here for end of day. At worst I'll be on my computer doing homework in which case heavily ping me in chat.

[UTAlan]

I'll be here, too.