Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[rob77dp]

Swap dd and Sub, move DC and Fab to Neutral, and I definitely agree with that list. How come you have slight town leans on DC and fab? They don't have much content, to my remembrance

Can you provide some support for why your list would have those edits?

DC - wearing emotion on his sleeve is NAI in my POV on him... however, when I wolfed with him he tended to be less 'passive' about it. It is a not a strong read for a reason as it is somewhat based on meta that I think Criminal!DC would have had more to say on a few of the previous day phases.

Fab - I believe he was Jailed and I see nothing in his content to lead me to expect a TOWN jailer to have done it. Criminals would have to be somewhat daring to FPS JK'ing their own member.

[rob77dp]

FYI - I'm not sliding Sub downward yet because I do remember his prior playing being heavily based on plans, roles, and scheming and this game has no out-of-thread allowed so his flailing at times could be either alignment for my taste (unsure how to be involved as scum _or_ town unsure of how to adjust his playstyle to solve in this brave new mafia-game world).

[godisnowonline]

I'm still not sure who targeted Fabian night 1. I only know that i didn't.

[UTAlan]

Jailing your own member isn't a terrible maf play, though it would def be creative. I mean, it gives you an excuse to not talk for an entire phase, meaning you can't be read for that entire day (voting aside).

[rob77dp]

Jailing your own member isn't a terrible maf play, though it would def be creative. I mean, it gives you an excuse to not talk for an entire phase, meaning you can't be read for that entire day (voting aside).

I would offer the opinion that if Fabian flips at some point and is Criminal then any information pointing us to a Jailer is very likely pointing to a Criminal!Jailer.

[Solaris]

Swap dd and Sub, move DC and Fab to Neutral, and I definitely agree with that list. How come you have slight town leans on DC and fab? They don't have much content, to my remembrance

Can you provide some support for why your list would have those edits?

DC - wearing emotion on his sleeve is NAI in my POV on him... however, when I wolfed with him he tended to be less 'passive' about it. It is a not a strong read for a reason as it is somewhat based on meta that I think Criminal!DC would have had more to say on a few of the previous day phases.

Fab - I believe he was Jailed and I see nothing in his content to lead me to expect a TOWN jailer to have done it. Criminals would have to be somewhat daring to FPS JK'ing their own member.

dd: explained earlier on my read on him

Sub: weak/waffly reads with no backing, some semblance of an ATE to me (remember, I did the same bit of ATE last game as maf, it's fairly common, I think)

DC: low amount of content, most of it was emotion based so I can't even really do much there, if anything it puts him lower on the neutral list towards scum but that's weak as hell reasoning

fab: forgot he was jailed but I was hoping for more content from him otherwise. I think Civ2Civ Jail might've happened here, or a redirect

[rob77dp]

Swap dd and Sub, move DC and Fab to Neutral, and I definitely agree with that list. How come you have slight town leans on DC and fab? They don't have much content, to my remembrance

Can you provide some support for why your list would have those edits?

DC - wearing emotion on his sleeve is NAI in my POV on him... however, when I wolfed with him he tended to be less 'passive' about it. It is a not a strong read for a reason as it is somewhat based on meta that I think Criminal!DC would have had more to say on a few of the previous day phases.

Fab - I believe he was Jailed and I see nothing in his content to lead me to expect a TOWN jailer to have done it. Criminals would have to be somewhat daring to FPS JK'ing their own member.

dd: explained earlier on my read on him

Sub: weak/waffly reads with no backing, some semblance of an ATE to me (remember, I did the same bit of ATE last game as maf, it's fairly common, I think)

DC: low amount of content, most of it was emotion based so I can't even really do much there, if anything it puts him lower on the neutral list towards scum but that's weak as hell reasoning

fab: forgot he was jailed but I was hoping for more content from him otherwise. I think Civ2Civ Jail might've happened here, or a redirect

Spicy.

What leads you to suspect Town-on-Town action in the likely jailing of Fabian??

OOOhhhhh, a redirect onto Fabian now that is something to ponder ...

[rob77dp]

I'm still not sure who targeted Fabian night 1. I only know that i didn't.

I feel like leaving this alone at the risk of outing roles or promoting role hunting in the thread... Sorry gino - I don't think you're lying, per se, but it is something that will be reviewed down the road if you live longer and need looked into.

[Solaris]

Sun's always hot.

Less experienced players might be more apt to fire without caution on N0/N1, and it happens that fabian was the target that the sights rested on. Jailer!fab hitting Bodyguard Ability2 is a possible realm as well. Either that, or we have another Politician ingame

[Solaris]

I'm still not sure who targeted Fabian night 1. I only know that i didn't.

strange post

[rob77dp]

Sun's always hot.

Less experienced players might be more apt to fire without caution on N0/N1, and it happens that fabian was the target that the sights rested on. Jailer!fab hitting Bodyguard Ability2 is a possible realm as well. Either that, or we have another Politician ingame

Your postulate would mean the game has TWO bg's in it... I cannot rule out Criminal-Politician!you (Sol) redirecting onto Fabian, at this juncture -- while I don't believe that is likely now it is possible.

[Solaris]

Sun's always hot.

Less experienced players might be more apt to fire without caution on N0/N1, and it happens that fabian was the target that the sights rested on. Jailer!fab hitting Bodyguard Ability2 is a possible realm as well. Either that, or we have another Politician ingame

Your postulate would mean the game has TWO bg's in it... I cannot rule out Criminal-Politician!you (Sol) redirecting onto Fabian, at this juncture -- while I don't believe that is likely now it is possible.

not possible, I used a different ability that night