Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[rob77dp]

You got it, bro

{Yes, I get you are likely tongue-in-cheek here but... I must play the game}

So you are town-reading me at the moment given you are softing a willing-ness to doctor me?

I'm still skeptical of you. I will say though, there is no way for me to give you doctor protection even if I was townreading you, as I'm not a doctor.

What changed between these:

I'm super confused as to how Espithel even died in the first place unless another member of the criminal team killed him intentionally

Anyways, here are my current reads, whatever they may be worth.

rob77dp - Giving off slight scum vibes imo, due to his immediate attempts to take charge of the game.
Linkcat - Unsure how to read Linkcat really, as I've skimmed through the majority of the posts this mafia. However, his support of No Lynch on the first day leads me to feel a very slight town alignment here. 
UTAlan - Strong town vibes. His claim of bodyguard is incredibly believable.
DoubleCapitals - Very slight scum vibes here due to the immediate reaction to lynch Sub just because of some invisitext, but I also know DC well enough on a personal level to know that this most likely is just due to not liking invisitext in general.
Coffeeditto - Not really enough posts that I've seen from him to make a read at this point. Neutral.
Solaris - Scum lean here. The idea of voting for himself was incredibly confusing, as I don't see any secondary abilities that could benefit from it.
Submachine - Town vibes due to Espithel dying.

This is all I have for now.. will post more later on.

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worldwideweb (3) - rob77dp, iancudorinmarian, UTAlan
Solaris (3) - killsdazombies ddevans96, JonathanCrazyJ
rob77dp (3) - Solaris, worldwideweb3, Lunaris

As stated in my reads list, rob is my highest suspect and has been since the very beginning.

and your current kinda-sorta-townreading me? That is, what changed your mind on me from Slight Scum -to- Highest Suspect -to- Somewhat Skeptical But Responded About Rob's Doc Request (which I take as a town-read on me)...

{This is just a PSA for townies out here: no need to be publicly UNclaiming roles -- that is, let's not go running around posting about "I'm not _this role_" or "I cannot do _that role_ because it isn't me" because that just benefits Criminals at this point who may be trying to track down key power roles. In no way is this PSA itself confirming or denying any in-thread claims or UNclaims.}

[killsdazombies]

Expect a more serious drop in activity. Im like 45% sure I have the flu at this point and I feel like death. I'll be headed to the doctor to get like, a metric shit ton of drugs to keep me sane but I'll prolly be drugged out and unable to contribute in a meaningful way. Feel free to ask me anything though I'll respond when I can. I'll prolly be back like, a full day/night cycle from now if I had to guess

[Lunaris]

Going off of gut feelings here. If you were scum, I believe that after being called out for being scum because of your incredibly active behavior and acting as the "leader" sort of figure in the game, you would have changed your playstyle due to that accusation. Also, around the time you were my highest suspect was the also around the time that you were using a lot of punctuation and exclamation points in your posts directed towards Solaris, another player who I believe to be town, so I really skeptical of your behavior.

But yeah, my suspicion of you isn't completely diminished, but there is much less of it than before.

[Lunaris]

Expect a more serious drop in activity. Im like 45% sure I have the flu at this point and I feel like death. I'll be headed to the doctor to get like, a metric shit ton of drugs to keep me sane but I'll prolly be drugged out and unable to contribute in a meaningful way. Feel free to ask me anything though I'll respond when I can. I'll prolly be back like, a full day/night cycle from now if I had to guess

Hope you feel better soon, kdz

[rob77dp]

Going off of gut feelings here. If you were scum, I believe that after being called out for being scum because of your incredibly active behavior and acting as the "leader" sort of figure in the game, you would have changed your playstyle due to that accusation. Also, around the time you were my highest suspect was the also around the time that you were using a lot of punctuation and exclamation points in your posts directed towards Solaris, another player who I believe to be town, so I really skeptical of your behavior.

But yeah, my suspicion of you isn't completely diminished, but there is much less of it than before.

Hmmm, OK - thank you for interacting and the time invested to digest and respond. I have some more I'd like to iron out or discuss with you:

I'm super confused as to how Espithel even died in the first place unless another member of the criminal team killed him intentionally

Anyways, here are my current reads, whatever they may be worth.

rob77dp - Giving off slight scum vibes imo, due to his immediate attempts to take charge of the game.
Linkcat - Unsure how to read Linkcat really, as I've skimmed through the majority of the posts this mafia. However, his support of No Lynch on the first day leads me to feel a very slight town alignment here. 
UTAlan - Strong town vibes. His claim of bodyguard is incredibly believable.
DoubleCapitals - Very slight scum vibes here due to the immediate reaction to lynch Sub just because of some invisitext, but I also know DC well enough on a personal level to know that this most likely is just due to not liking invisitext in general.
Coffeeditto - Not really enough posts that I've seen from him to make a read at this point. Neutral.
Solaris - Scum lean here. The idea of voting for himself was incredibly confusing, as I don't see any secondary abilities that could benefit from it.
Submachine - Town vibes due to Espithel dying.

This is all I have for now.. will post more later on.

Green:
WIFOM mind-bender coming at you then... I fully believe that a Criminal!rob would not simply change playstyle mid-game in order to react directly in response to an in-game scum-read of typically not-alignment-indicating behavior such as 'activity tell' or 'town-lead forging'.

Turquoise:
You were scum-reading me for how I was in-thread addressing/typing-to another of your scum-reads (Solaris)... that doesn't compute for me as to why a town!Luna would have the thought to base part of a rob-scum-read on his approach to Sol when you're also scum-reading Sol.

What changed your mind on Sol from "Scum lean here" to "[you] believe to be town"? I'm just looking for either your post about progressing that read or type out your ideas here what you remember changing your mind on him. After all, you did end the day voting on Solaris:

Spoiler for Hidden:

Antics

Fair enough

worldwideweb (7) - iancudorinmarian, UTAlan, mathman, rob77dp, Linkcat, gino, killsdazombies
Solaris (5) - JonathanCrazyJ, Coffeeditto, worldwideweb3, Lunaris, ddevans96
DoubleCapitals (1) - Submachine
Coffeeditto (1) - Solaris

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[Lunaris]

Spoiler for Quote:

Going off of gut feelings here. If you were scum, I believe that after being called out for being scum because of your incredibly active behavior and acting as the "leader" sort of figure in the game, you would have changed your playstyle due to that accusation. Also, around the time you were my highest suspect was the also around the time that you were using a lot of punctuation and exclamation points in your posts directed towards Solaris, another player who I believe to be town, so I really skeptical of your behavior.

But yeah, my suspicion of you isn't completely diminished, but there is much less of it than before.

Hmmm, OK - thank you for interacting and the time invested to digest and respond. I have some more I'd like to iron out or discuss with you:

I'm super confused as to how Espithel even died in the first place unless another member of the criminal team killed him intentionally

Anyways, here are my current reads, whatever they may be worth.

rob77dp - Giving off slight scum vibes imo, due to his immediate attempts to take charge of the game.
Linkcat - Unsure how to read Linkcat really, as I've skimmed through the majority of the posts this mafia. However, his support of No Lynch on the first day leads me to feel a very slight town alignment here. 
UTAlan - Strong town vibes. His claim of bodyguard is incredibly believable.
DoubleCapitals - Very slight scum vibes here due to the immediate reaction to lynch Sub just because of some invisitext, but I also know DC well enough on a personal level to know that this most likely is just due to not liking invisitext in general.
Coffeeditto - Not really enough posts that I've seen from him to make a read at this point. Neutral.
Solaris - Scum lean here. The idea of voting for himself was incredibly confusing, as I don't see any secondary abilities that could benefit from it.
Submachine - Town vibes due to Espithel dying.

This is all I have for now.. will post more later on.

Green:
WIFOM mind-bender coming at you then... I fully believe that a Criminal!rob would not simply change playstyle mid-game in order to react directly in response to an in-game scum-read of typically not-alignment-indicating behavior such as 'activity tell' or 'town-lead forging'.

Turquoise:
You were scum-reading me for how I was in-thread addressing/typing-to another of your scum-reads (Solaris)... that doesn't compute for me as to why a town!Luna would have the thought to base part of a rob-scum-read on his approach to Sol when you're also scum-reading Sol.

What changed your mind on Sol from "Scum lean here" to "[you] believe to be town"? I'm just looking for either your post about progressing that read or type out your ideas here what you remember changing your mind on him. After all, you did end the day voting on Solaris:

Spoiler for Hidden:

Antics

Fair enough

worldwideweb (7) - iancudorinmarian, UTAlan, mathman, rob77dp, Linkcat, gino, killsdazombies
Solaris (5) - JonathanCrazyJ, Coffeeditto, worldwideweb3, Lunaris, ddevans96
DoubleCapitals (1) - Submachine
Coffeeditto (1) - Solaris

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I'm kind of confused by what you're trying to say about the Green section.

For Turquoise, my view of Solaris has changed due to the fact that the way he is playing is a horrible way for a mafia member to play, considering the fact that they are already down a player.

[rob77dp]

Spoiler for Quote:

Going off of gut feelings here. If you were scum, I believe that after being called out for being scum because of your incredibly active behavior and acting as the "leader" sort of figure in the game, you would have changed your playstyle due to that accusation. Also, around the time you were my highest suspect was the also around the time that you were using a lot of punctuation and exclamation points in your posts directed towards Solaris, another player who I believe to be town, so I really skeptical of your behavior.

But yeah, my suspicion of you isn't completely diminished, but there is much less of it than before.

Hmmm, OK - thank you for interacting and the time invested to digest and respond. I have some more I'd like to iron out or discuss with you:

I'm super confused as to how Espithel even died in the first place unless another member of the criminal team killed him intentionally

Anyways, here are my current reads, whatever they may be worth.

rob77dp - Giving off slight scum vibes imo, due to his immediate attempts to take charge of the game.
Linkcat - Unsure how to read Linkcat really, as I've skimmed through the majority of the posts this mafia. However, his support of No Lynch on the first day leads me to feel a very slight town alignment here. 
UTAlan - Strong town vibes. His claim of bodyguard is incredibly believable.
DoubleCapitals - Very slight scum vibes here due to the immediate reaction to lynch Sub just because of some invisitext, but I also know DC well enough on a personal level to know that this most likely is just due to not liking invisitext in general.
Coffeeditto - Not really enough posts that I've seen from him to make a read at this point. Neutral.
Solaris - Scum lean here. The idea of voting for himself was incredibly confusing, as I don't see any secondary abilities that could benefit from it.
Submachine - Town vibes due to Espithel dying.

This is all I have for now.. will post more later on.

Green:
WIFOM mind-bender coming at you then... I fully believe that a Criminal!rob would not simply change playstyle mid-game in order to react directly in response to an in-game scum-read of typically not-alignment-indicating behavior such as 'activity tell' or 'town-lead forging'.

Turquoise:
You were scum-reading me for how I was in-thread addressing/typing-to another of your scum-reads (Solaris)... that doesn't compute for me as to why a town!Luna would have the thought to base part of a rob-scum-read on his approach to Sol when you're also scum-reading Sol.

What changed your mind on Sol from "Scum lean here" to "[you] believe to be town"? I'm just looking for either your post about progressing that read or type out your ideas here what you remember changing your mind on him. After all, you did end the day voting on Solaris:

Spoiler for Hidden:

Antics

Fair enough

worldwideweb (7) - iancudorinmarian, UTAlan, mathman, rob77dp, Linkcat, gino, killsdazombies
Solaris (5) - JonathanCrazyJ, Coffeeditto, worldwideweb3, Lunaris, ddevans96
DoubleCapitals (1) - Submachine
Coffeeditto (1) - Solaris

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I'm kind of confused by what you're trying to say about the Green section.

I mean I fancy myself smart enough not to _quit_ doing something mid-game just because I've been scum-read for it when I believe as EITHER alignment that I would do it anyways. Therefore, I don't think it was ever valid to be using that as a scum-read basis for me (that being my being active / "taking charge" is something I may do as either alignment equally).

For Turquoise, my view of Solaris has changed due to the fact that the way he is playing is a horrible way for a mafia member to play, considering the fact that they are already down a player.

This is possibly a fair point... but I'm not really into handing out town-reads for someone playing horribly partly because it encourages bad play to get town-read and partly because it excuses players not developing their style/play at all because town-read-for-being-bad they might consider fine (hint: it isn't).


SOLARIS:
Would you be game for some pro-town effort here? If so, I've an idea for you/us...

[Solaris]

check22 there, my playstyle is reckless and chaotic

[Solaris]

but aside from that, happy to help, robbarito, give me the down-low

[Solaris]

in our mafia pad

[UTAlan]

Hey guys, I know who we should lynch

[rob77dp]

Hey guys, I know who we should lynch

Is it dawn or math?