Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[rob77dp]

Coffee -

Why did you target me last night? I'd like to chat a little about that...

[Coffeeditto]

"Can I have a bodyguard on me?"

[rob77dp]

"Can I have a bodyguard on me?"

Were you town-reading me prior to that? For all a town-jailor knows I could have been bluffing - what convinced you I was for real?

[rob77dp]

I read through the whole thread and this is where I stand.

Not mafia: Link, Sol, Sub, UTA, rob, dd, Lunaris, w3

Eh: kdz, iancu, DC, math

Not enough content, please shoot: dawn, gino, fabian, but don't shoot fabian because he was jailed.

Mafia: Coffee, JCJ

Sol, how do you feel about lynching Coffee?

Link... would you elaborate on how you are so confident fabian was jailed (or point me to where you already answered it... feeling now like maybe you already did but I"m just not seeing it)? Also, what does the "Eh" category mean - not sure I"ve seen you use that before??

[Coffeeditto]

Your talkative nature along with being around right before night ended in order to see who flipped what. Both of these things were qualities a mafia could have, but then UTAlan strongly implied he townread you, and I view/viewed UTA as town prior.

[rob77dp]

Your talkative nature along with being around right before night ended in order to see who flipped what. Both of these things were qualities a mafia could have, but then UTAlan strongly implied he townread you, and I view/viewed UTA as town prior.

Had you posted about townreading me prior to my asking for protection? Just a quick link to it would suffice, if you did.

Did you consider that I would bluffing scum and that just UTA's "got you fam" in-thread agreement to protect me would be enough to keep Criminals from NK targeting me?

[Coffeeditto]

I didn't post anything in regards to reads about anyone, as I was keeping them to myself. You could see my early slight scumread-gone-vote on Sub as the only tell I let out at that point.

As far as saving you, I thought UTA was bluffing to get focus away from the most talkative member of the game. If you are/were mafia, you wouldn't have died anyway, but talking so much would have given your role away the longer you're alive. As town, you were/are pressing people to get info, which is a useful town skill. I recognize(d) that and chose to make sure if you were town you were safe in case UTA was bluffing.

[rob77dp]

I didn't post anything in regards to reads about anyone, as I was keeping them to myself. You could see my early slight scumread-gone-vote on Sub as the only tell I let out at that point.

As far as saving you, I thought UTA was bluffing to get focus away from the most talkative member of the game. If you are/were mafia, you wouldn't have died anyway, but talking so much would have given your role away the longer you're alive. As town, you were/are pressing people to get info, which is a useful town skill. I recognize(d) that and chose to make sure if you were town you were safe in case UTA was bluffing.

Thoughts on UTA's tinfoil (that I 'get' and think has some merit for consideration) about it here?

Also worth noting, bodyguard doesn't clear Coffee of being maf. Targeting rob w/ headlock and then NKing me gives him a defense without risk.

[rob77dp]

For reference, I'm not hard-claiming maf w/ my mafia buddies here, just using an example.

This is one of the main reasons, tbh. You'd have to be pretty damn stupid to post this if you were mafia

Plural reasons -- can you provide a few other non-main reasons you're town-reading coffee?

Hey there Luna...

Any chance you could put together a response to this? They should be reasons you simply need to type into the box and click "Post" since you heavily implied / stated you already had the reasons. You've read the thread a few times since I posted it but I'd really like to see you put out the other "non-main" reasons you town-read Coffee this game. Thanks.

[Coffeeditto]

I have nothing that can clear me of that. He's right thinking that way, all I can really say is I didn't do the latter of which even though I have no proof.

[Lunaris]

For reference, I'm not hard-claiming maf w/ my mafia buddies here, just using an example.

This is one of the main reasons, tbh. You'd have to be pretty damn stupid to post this if you were mafia

Plural reasons -- can you provide a few other non-main reasons you're town-reading coffee?

Hey there Luna...

Any chance you could put together a response to this? They should be reasons you simply need to type into the box and click "Post" since you heavily implied / stated you already had the reasons. You've read the thread a few times since I posted it but I'd really like to see you put out the other "non-main" reasons you town-read Coffee this game. Thanks.

Sorry, was struggling to stay awake so this will be my last post for the night.

Coffee is one of the only people in this game that I've seen have a constant opinion on other players, whereas everyone else seems to have one thought about someone, and then ten minutes later they say something that seems to say the opposite.

Also, we are all, or at least I am, pretty certain with the fact that UTA is a townie, so Coffee siding with UTA really helped his case.

[rob77dp]

I have nothing that can clear me of that. He's right thinking that way, all I can really say is I didn't do the latter of which even though I have no proof.

You're right on that.

I think Criminals didn't have me as the NK target even before my request for protection -- with Espi flipping red and that 99% likely meaning he was the Criminal that sent in the NK and targeted UTA -- I suspect my town-reading Espithel had Criminals planning to keep me alive to leverage that Espi-town-read down the road/next day phase.