Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[Linkcat]

Yes, mafia would never kill a newer player like me.

You're right that I like playing a scummy town, but I need to be townread now that I know who the mafia are.

[Solaris]

Sol - you're silence right now is deafening. Can you come in and do a few thoughts or post comments post-www3-flip??

already have

[rob77dp]

Sol - you're silence right now is deafening. Can you come in and do a few thoughts or post comments post-www3-flip??

already have

If this is town!you it is infuriatingly weak. I mean this totally within confines of the game and how town aligned players should be pushing to advance town agenda. Your only input is that you think scum are going to push a ML train on you tomorrow/next day phase? I'm pretty unconvinced you're a ML in the first place. HOw about something pertinent to this night phase??

[Solaris]

i gave insight onto that there's likely scum on the latter half of w3's train, because they saw a bustle of votes and knew it wasn't wholly incriminating to not lynch a maf, though I think my vote was on maf until I swapped to coffee

[rob77dp]

i gave insight onto that there's likely scum on the latter half of w3's train, because they saw a bustle of votes and knew it wasn't wholly incriminating to not lynch a maf, though I think my vote was on maf until I swapped to coffee

>.< right on that, my mistake there.

Link, gino, kdz -- your current scum-reads? Is it founded any deeper than them simply being in the latter half of the WWW3 train? ALso, are you jointly scum-reading them or independently (that is, you think they're teamed up or that some/one of them might be Criminal)?

[Linkcat]

/in

This may be my lowest posting game yet... come ML me scum.

RIP my record.

[rob77dp]

i gave insight onto that there's likely scum on the latter half of w3's train, because they saw a bustle of votes and knew it wasn't wholly incriminating to not lynch a maf, though I think my vote was on maf until I swapped to coffee

you... Switched onto coffee from www3 who just flipped intel so your vote was not on scum prior to you voting coffee. Before that looks like you were voting yourself??

[Linkcat]

He was voting on you.

[rob77dp]

He was voting on you.

not in the posts he made end of day when I went and isolated sol posts...

[worldwideweb3]

I thought I was safe and I was sleeping because I don't live in US. Oh well, town, you screwed up. Big time.

[Submachine]

Good spots. I'm on record as scumreading Coffee slightly but this strengths it. - Sub, since you don't want to lynch the other three, what do you think about Coffee?

I would have been helping with this if I was awake. I had minor suspicions about him yesterday.

Now that the kill happened though, I need to ask this again:

Strong disagreement. We do not want a second day of No Lynch. We get a large amount of information from all three of these primary lynch targets.

Just in advance, I want to ask something which I can reflect back upon after someone got lynched.

- What information do we learn by the lynch if we lynch a Town member?

- What information do we learn by the lynch if we lynch an Intel member?

...because from past experience, we learned absolutely nothing when the lynched person was Town even though a lot of people were like "Oh, we'll have a lot of information if we do this!". We usually only learn by killing a mafia member, or when there is a "1 out of 2 people must be evil" case.

So what did we learn? Because I learned nothing while losing someone who could have been useful later.

Time to sleep. Analysis coming tomorrow. Also, bodyguard(s) should protect someone else. I'll be safe from NK tonight.

I volunteer for tribute. (if i'm being townread by most people, i would be a safe target for NK, especially because normally i wouldn't be targeted by protection, because i have less valuable inputs)

[ddevans96]

So what did we learn? Because I learned nothing while losing someone who could have been useful later.

Every post on d1 that mentions www3 in relation to the vote (well, most of them, there's bound to be a bit of fluff) is an interaction that can lead to discussion, and in many cases a potential read on the people involved. Very few of them are significant in their own right, but it's more like putting a puzzle together. Immediately after his death was finalized and even before that, conversation started that lead to some people developing and discussing reads.

You've said you don't put much value in tells and reads, so it's possible this kind of information just doesn't mesh with your playstyle, similar to how making and analyzing read lists isn't suitable for mine.