Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[worldwideweb3]

Good call, Sub.

My vote was on Sol b/c rob asked me to put it there, but at this point I think w3 is scummier. Should be around for a few more hours in case I need to change my vote again (to avoid tie or whatever).

worldwideweb (3) - rob77dp, iancudorinmarian, UTAlan
Solaris (3) - killsdazombies ddevans96, JonathanCrazyJ
rob77dp (1) - Solaris

worldwideweb (3) - rob77dp, iancudorinmarian, UTAlan
Solaris (3) - killsdazombies ddevans96, JonathanCrazyJ
rob77dp (2) - Solaris, worldwideweb3

Guess i will drop a vote too.

that's a terrible vote www3, and not only because it is on me but because it REEKS of serving only to push a counter wagon to sol and you. Two OMGUS votes and Luna voting her 2nd top scum read claiming it is her top scum read.

worldwideweb (3) - rob77dp, iancudorinmarian, UTAlan
Solaris (3) - killsdazombies ddevans96, JonathanCrazyJ
rob77dp (3) - Solaris, worldwideweb3, Lunaris

As stated in my reads list, rob is my highest suspect and has been since the very beginning.

I feel like Luna may yet still just be lost in the volume odd the thread so I'm refraining from pushing too hard there right now given how much more sCummy Sol and www3 are being.

EXCUSE ME. YOU ASKED ME TO VOTE ON MY SCUMMY READS AND I DID THAT AND NOW YOU COMPLAINING CAUSE THATS YOU.

[Submachine]

Fabian definitely claims jailed at this point, unless it's a troll.

[worldwideweb3]

Fabian definitely claims jailed at this point, unless it's a troll.

Claims to be targetted by one.

[Kuroaitou]

I'm 99% sure abilities like that won't go into effect until after the night phase has ended.

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This statement is correct. Abilities that are based upon communication lines (personal message spying, posting capabilities, etc.) occur after the night has ended, not during.

[ddevans96]

Alright, so...I'm sorry, but making read lists and fully analyzing other players' read lists is not something I'm going to be doing. I've tried it all night and I just keep scrapping posts. It's becoming apparent that it doesn't fit my playstyle and I feel I contribute more without them.

My general reads are still earlier in the thread, as modifications to UT's tiers - the only changes since are that:

-I'm no longer scumreading Link as I've read over the thread with a different filter, so to speak, after realizing I might be biased - maybe a very minor scumlean but I'm more inclined to just say neutral.
-While I'm not scumreading rob, I want to note his most recent post and www3's response - I'm in agreement with www3, I don't particularly see what's wrong with his vote there. It doesn't feel omgus to me because www3 had already voiced suspicion of rob.
-I'm starting to lean town for www3. His behavior is just hitting my instincts as closer to what I would expect from an aggressive town than aggressive scum.

I don't really care for this tied vote, but there's plenty of daylight left so I'm not going to change my vote yet, I'll do so if needed of course. All three are viable lynches in my eyes, given breadth of information possible from them.

[Submachine]

There's a very subtle thing that caught my eye and doesn't let me rest.

So www3 posted this a few hours after this phase has started:

Spoiler for Hidden:

@rob

Espi was rather nice to you. After seeing your and espi's interaction (and seeing how you two voted on diff wagons too), i would funnily enough suspect you as mafia.
Sola is also on my mafia list atm.

First, thanks for putting that reply out there, www3. Second, my responses:

* He was a Criminal being town-read by me... of course he was nice to me. Are you scum-reading anyone else based on them being nice to each other and not voting the same player?

* What has you scum-reading Solaris right now?

* Nothing else from your commentary-list changes with Espithel's night death?

<had this typed up but lost it in my sea of open tabs without clicking "Post">

Defends sola's left vote (and links), puts vote on sub at 4-4. Either he did that to stay away from a fellow mafia partner, or to protect a fellow mafia partner, or just because he wanted sub dead more.

Also, rob. He (espi) was vieing your profile. A town wouldnt really be doing that.

mafia*, not town

So you're after-the-fact scum-reading Espithel for your seeing in the /who that he was viewing my profile? 0.o I find it totally NAI (not alignment indicative) whether another player is viewing people's forum profiles. Can you walk me through how you're finding that scummy (you stated it was scummy for Espithel to do it -- would you find that scummy of other players too)?

I dont see any other reason for him to view your profile apart from exchanging pms with his fellow mafia partner.

On a completely different note, are you alive link? And can others who havent posted since nk also comment?

The thing that caught my eye is the last part:

On a completely different note, are you alive link? And can others who havent posted since nk also comment?

It sticks out for me that Link got called out first. If Link is also affected by a Jailor, this 'calling him out' part would make me think that you are involved and you are taunting him to talk jibberish.

I looked up your last expressed attitude towards Link, and found this:

Link - neutral. Claims that he's struggling to scumread anyone, which is slightly weird too, but nothing too out of place yet.

So you didn't have an ongoing suspicion on him it seems, you just suddenly started focusing on him.


So I would assume that you are either a Jailor or in connection with a Jailor. And if it's the latter, that's not possible for Town.

[worldwideweb3]

It's normal to call out one of the better players who is inactive. I don't see what's wrong with me only mentioning link there.

[Linkcat]

I haven't read the last 20 pages but I think you guys picked some pretty bad lynch targets.

[worldwideweb3]

I haven't read the last 20 pages but I think you guys picked some pretty bad lynch targets.

...
Who do you find scummy then and why?

[Submachine]

worldwideweb (3) - rob77dp, iancudorinmarian, UTAlan
Solaris (3) - killsdazombies ddevans96, JonathanCrazyJ
rob77dp (3) - Solaris, worldwideweb3, Lunaris
DoubleCapitals (1) - Submachine

Adding a 4th option to the mix.

[iancudorinmarian]

Sure, lets make it a 4-way tie, why not?

[Submachine]

It's impossible that our people will allow a tie this time. Someone will break it.