Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[Linkcat]

Forgot to add, I have more to say but will get to it later.

[worldwideweb3]

In those links, I see you supporting no lynch rob. Clarify. (You too Ian, and UT)

[ddevans96]

In this moment, can you just read it through until you find one inconsistency or ping-of-your-feels or thing-that-you-really-really-jive with? Just one?

Sure. Using his setup (very slight / slight / medium on each side of neutral) I'd make (roughly) the following tweaks (as of now, not as of the time of his reads):

kdz -1
rob -1
Sub -1
Link -3
Luna -1
Espi +1
gino +1
Coffee +1

So the only big difference is Link. I can't actually justify the strength of that read other than gut feeling/intuition, and it is possible I'm simply overly critical of him given past interactions. He's probably not a medium (by this system I put him at slight - it's really more slight-medium) scumlean as I said I have him pegged at earlier. I'd still say weak though, so realistically a -2 or so.

[ddevans96]

Addendum: I have UT as a slight townread at the moment.

[rob77dp]

In those links, I see you supporting no lynch rob. Clarify. (You too Ian, and UT)

I started out very much raw at this game. Not understanding it anywhere close as I do now (which is saying something given how raw I still feel when I play) I had some bad ideas. For example, my first game here I was reading player alignments by comparing posting times among players -- this is very bad. Having played many more game since some of my first ones (I might be up to 20 total games including here and elsewhere) I changed my tune... No Lynch serves a purpose but I don't think yesterday was that purpose.

I will dig up the post/game where I even POSTED about changing my tune about No Lynch.

[ddevans96]

Oh I missed one. math +1

I also want to clarify that my posts in all caps were mostly shitposting while being caught up in the flood of posts.

For what it's worth my post regarding that was meant to be light-hearted. Thanks for the in-depth post on NL, more useful than the ones I've been making on the topic.

[rob77dp]

www3 - I'm reading through your town-game in Elements Mafia 65 a couple months ago... it doesn't match what I'm seeing from you this game. This is called a meta-read. In combination with my intuition telling me your motivation this game is also not showing towny it makes this a not-slight scum-lean on you.

Multiple occasions that game you vote with intent to lynch and base it on "reverse vote" (AKA OMGUS), instincts, and instinct but here you're suddenly NOT ok with even giving opinions on players without reading the thread, having some kind of study hour moments, and then putting out a list.

Just put out your instinct's top scum read.

It's easier to have opinions when the game has low post count, and you dont have to read as much. If i was mafia, do you really think i would take this long just to give a reads list, considering you even put me as town for a bit before?

This doesn't add up.

I can explain later - suffice to say my scum-lean on you is getting stronger/heavier.

[rob77dp]

In those links, I see you supporting no lynch rob. Clarify. (You too Ian, and UT)

I started out very much raw at this game. Not understanding it anywhere close as I do now (which is saying something given how raw I still feel when I play) I had some bad ideas. For example, my first game here I was reading player alignments by comparing posting times among players -- this is very bad. Having played many more game since some of my first ones (I might be up to 20 total games including here and elsewhere) I changed my tune... No Lynch serves a purpose but I don't think yesterday was that purpose.

I will dig up the post/game where I even POSTED about changing my tune about No Lynch.

8 months ago -- and in that post I refer to even PRIOR to that having concluded No Lynch early is not pro-town.
Not finding _that_ particular point where I actually changed my mind but had to be after #54 where I supported it (because I was not always as smart as I am now) and this #61 where I oppose it and have ever since.

Also, here's Linkcat jumping on board my totally randomized Day 1 vote on CR.

[rob77dp]

Putting this here for me later.

Spoiler for Hidden:

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Having to leave this PC and don't want to lose my research progress.

[Solaris]

dick cheney already explained why he self voted

[godisnowonline]

We've all jumped on CR though. That's... It's a bad precedent to use for anything. CR has a history of bringing out the most toxic in people. That said, DD why are you reading me as slight town? I've been inactive (dealing with exterminator today) and only just got caught up with the flow of the game from page 39 of the thread. I think i've gleaned the TL:DR that sub and sunbro where both put up for lynch before a no lynch was decided

[Espithel]

While looking through past mafias, I found this gem.