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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258667#msg1258667
« Reply #108 on: March 07, 2017, 07:46:25 pm »
By the by, the current voting pattern is almost sure to NOT lynch a scum - that being a host of 1x and 2x vote-receivers. Scum teams will simply do a late vote change with minimal thread-posted reasoning onto a non-scum target.
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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258668#msg1258668
« Reply #109 on: March 07, 2017, 07:46:44 pm »
I agree with JCJ, no lynch is bad.

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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - JCJ... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258669#msg1258669
« Reply #110 on: March 07, 2017, 07:49:46 pm »
JCJ - I have an idea... we should no-lynch today because of something-something-something.

No. As always, no. I am not bothering to say the arguments against no lynch again, I have done so in almost every mafia i have played in
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Oh, OK. Doesn't it avoid the possible outcome of mislynching an unsuspecting or defenseless li'l towny?
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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258672#msg1258672
« Reply #111 on: March 07, 2017, 08:23:03 pm »
I agree with JCJ, no lynch is bad.
I disagree with both of you.
2-1, you lose.

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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258675#msg1258675
« Reply #112 on: March 07, 2017, 09:36:18 pm »
I agree with JCJ, no lynch is bad.
I disagree with both of you.
2-1, you lose.
3-1

JCJ - I'm going to go copy/paste one of your past dissertations on no-lynch being a bad move for town... I'll plagiarize if you don't want the credit.


JCJ brief-version on why not to no-lynch on the first Day

He states for a 2nd time

3rd

One more

I have to agree with JCJ. Sub - what is your case in support of no-lynch?
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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258676#msg1258676
« Reply #113 on: March 07, 2017, 10:14:08 pm »
I have to agree with JCJ. Sub - what is your case in support of no-lynch?
I'm not running fancy maths, I have a simple view on the topic.

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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258677#msg1258677
« Reply #114 on: March 07, 2017, 10:20:58 pm »
Requesting implementation of the following rule:

Day phases will end 5 minutes after the most recent post that includes a vote, if the deadline has been reached. The day will end at the host's discretion if there is any vote swapping trolling/juggling.

I will probably implement this as a standard mafia rule starting with 69.
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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258678#msg1258678
« Reply #115 on: March 07, 2017, 10:26:22 pm »
I was going to make some stupid facetious post about how ddevan's bio being a rainsoaked songbird and his avatar being an ampharos makes him a liar, but Sub, pls.

No Lynching is bad. Active scumreading is more important than roles, and people being lynched is how you get activity in reads.
Active reading but no roles makes a game hard to win.
Roles but no activity (which is more likely) = No votes = No win.

Or, another easy way of putting it, Killing people progresses the game how the town wants it to progress; we choose scummy-looking scrubs and bash their skulls in. Not lynching people progresses the game how the mafia want it to progress; they will be scouting around, reading, and figuring out who the most important people to kill are.

People are going to die regardless, and thanks to all votes being public, people being lynched gives more information than people being nightkilled.

And what happens if the cop dies, is a sheeple, inactive, or, worst of all, scum? We'd've just wasted a few days no-lynching and doing sweet FA (which bores people, which reduces activity) when we could've been gathering large amounts of information with a few pinpricks of info.

There, I saved you six posts, Rob. Do not expect this level of seriousness consistently from me.

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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258679#msg1258679
« Reply #116 on: March 07, 2017, 10:36:36 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258681#msg1258681
« Reply #117 on: March 07, 2017, 10:40:35 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258682#msg1258682
« Reply #118 on: March 07, 2017, 10:48:07 pm »
I agree with JCJ, no lynch is bad.
I disagree with both of you.
2-1, you lose.
3-1

JCJ - I'm going to go copy/paste one of your past dissertations on no-lynch being a bad move for town... I'll plagiarize if you don't want the credit.


JCJ brief-version on why not to no-lynch on the first Day

He states for a 2nd time

3rd

One more

I have to agree with JCJ. Sub - what is your case in support of no-lynch?

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Re: Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64236.msg1258684#msg1258684
« Reply #119 on: March 07, 2017, 10:53:38 pm »
At this point it's too early for me to have any solid reads. Picked between Solaris and dd b/c I don't want to spread the votes any more than they are already. Sol because he's a dirty self-voter. I'd get Link, too, if I could.

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