Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[UTAlan]

I didn't send an ability last night. I apologize to town for my lapse.

Family matters have kept me distracted and despite posting a list of potential targets i failed to submit a target. I'll take the lynch because i failed to follow through but I can't tell town that thats what i want because I am town.

Definitely worth considering if dawn flips Town. Or even Not-Jailor!Criminal. We'll revisit this after the current lynch, methinks.

[rob77dp]

kdz: There have been repeated mentions that either math or rob will be protected, but mafia still decided to shoot among them for 50-50. I wonder if the remaining Criminals would actually risk something like this, OR would they know in advance that noone will protect math? I can think of 3 plausible excuses for his defense, but it alarms me how lucky mafia was with that kill.

This is important because it's been 2 nights in a row that this has happened. They knew either I or dd would be protected 2 nights ago and still NK'd dd. They're either playing risky and it's paying off, or they have inside info (*cough* kdz *cough*)

To me the only plausible explanations for kdz still being alive are:

1. kdz is Criminal and Criminals cannot NK their own members (seems quite plausible)
2. kdz was Criminal!jailed to prevent him from doctoring math (doubtful as he would have been alerted, per OP, and should have stated in-thread pretty quickly if that was the case... but this could be why he is being left alive while Criminals still have a Jailor)
3. math was hitting some key targets and they needed to risk stopping him ASAP (seems most wishy-washy of the list though)
4. kdz is not doctor and Criminals somehow know this (early 'lucky' use of Student ability or something? - not very likely)
5. ???

[UTAlan]

@rob - Just reviewed and realized it was a question. No to when you asked it. Yes if you asked it now.

[killsdazombies]

Im still alive because I spent the entire game being combative with one of the better players :V EZPZ path to final rounds, they want me alive because they think they can make me flip, and they wont kill me because I have you ire. Im in the literal best possible "continue to be alive position" I had HOPED my going aggro on you would draw their fire for when I rescued you, but instead they hit math, and solaris redirected to me anyway (thanks pal) So it wouldnt have mattered. I ride the lightning rob, too scummy to NK, too town to lynch. I like to Monitor the situation rob.

Though, it was just a coinflip twice in a row, rob or math, I chose rob, they shot math. UTA or DD, I chose UTA, they shot dd. Bad luck is all tbh, or one of the two mafia members left can read my mind. Somehow I doubt it though.

[Solaris]

keep in mind that I've been hit by an ability named "Monitor" and KDZ could totally have some padshared information in the case of mafia!kdz here

[UTAlan]

Mafia!kdz won't have an Observer or Student in his team, just Jailor. Criminal!Jailor might have an Observer on his team, but that wouldn't be kdz.

[rob77dp]

keep in mind that I've been hit by an ability named "Monitor" and KDZ could totally have some padshared information in the case of mafia!kdz here

When were you hit? Odd phrasing too -- "keep in mind"? How - we didn't even know it yet.

[Solaris]

keep in mind that I've been hit by an ability named "Monitor" and KDZ could totally have some padshared information in the case of mafia!kdz here

When were you hit? Odd phrasing too -- "keep in mind"? How - we didn't even know it yet.

Night 2; I said it prior. I don't know if it's a lasting effect or not, so some people may have more information to seem credible on.

[rob77dp]

keep in mind that I've been hit by an ability named "Monitor" and KDZ could totally have some padshared information in the case of mafia!kdz here

When were you hit? Odd phrasing too -- "keep in mind"? How - we didn't even know it yet.

Night 2; I said it prior. I don't know if it's a lasting effect or not, so some people may have more information to seem credible on.

Hmmmm, I'd wager that is either of the Observer abilities or maybe Politician ability-2 with an outside shot of being doctor (like monitor vitals or some such thing). Criminal-Observer-Espi died Night 1 so if it is Observer ability then pretty confident that person is Town. If politician then it means we have one that is not Sol (if Sol is Pol -- seems he is). If it was doctor and we're operating on the condition of "Rescue" being the doctor ability then... yeah, seems that is almost surely the Observer ability name... one of the abilities at least.

(My mistake if you said it earlier, I did not see it in a quick cruise for it recently)

[Solaris]

yeah, I can imagine that it's probably town in the end of it, I haven't been the most towny acting player this game, but I think overall I am. don't identify yourself, observer

[rob77dp]

If we suspect dawn is a jailor, and possibly scum, then what happens if Jailor!gino uses ability one on dawn while dawn uses Jailor-ability-1 on someone else the same night??

[killsdazombies]

Was hoping someone would react to it, though I hoped it was the user of it, rather then a recipient of it.

It either a doc 1 ability (if so, its likely the mafias)
Observer 1 or 2

Everything else would either have killed solaris by now, or given info about its mechanics.