Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[UTAlan]

In the meantime:

killsdazombies (2) - robdp77, Solaris
Submachine (1) - mathman101
DoubleCapitals (1) - UTAlan

(Removed Sub b/c "No Vote" isn't a thing.)

[mathman101]

I know it might be too late, but I think we need a mass role claim by anyone online. Doctor is already vulnerable, we might as well see what we can see and use it to help guide this lynch.

Nope nope nope nope. only helps mafia and intel, very very minimal help to town and no indication of allignment

I'm in partial agreement with JCJ right now. This will only help mafia for tonight's night. It might be useful/needed tomorrow or even tonight's night phase if we can't find something.

This would not help Intel I think though.  My understanding is that they need the role name, not just the role. I.e. male escorts, pharmacist, fortune teller, etc.

[UTAlan]

And at this point half of the players have already claimed roles. Getting another 6 claims will help us root out possible liars.

no it won't at all as there can be multiple of all roles, potentially, as kuro clarified, an imbalance (ie 1 doc but 3 bodyguard)

WHY WOULD KURO DO THAT? THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY UNBALANCED AND I CAN'T IMAGINE HIM DOING IT. THERE WOULD BE NO REASON AND IT WOULD POTENTIALLY RUIN THE GAME. (See: my 1 of each role + 9 doctors example.)

[UTAlan]

I know it might be too late, but I think we need a mass role claim by anyone online. Doctor is already vulnerable, we might as well see what we can see and use it to help guide this lynch.

Nope nope nope nope. only helps mafia and intel, very very minimal help to town and no indication of allignment

I'm in partial agreement with JCJ right now. This will only help mafia for tonight's night. It might be useful/needed tomorrow or even tonight's night phase if we can't find something.

This would not help Intel I think though.  My understanding is that they need the role name, not just the role. I.e. male escorts, pharmacist, fortune teller, etc.

Doing it tonight would help ONLY mafia. If we're going to do it, we need to do it during a day phase while we have control of the lynch.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

And at this point half of the players have already claimed roles. Getting another 6 claims will help us root out possible liars.

no it won't at all as there can be multiple of all roles, potentially, as kuro clarified, an imbalance (ie 1 doc but 3 bodyguard)

WHY WOULD KURO DO THAT? THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY UNBALANCED AND I CAN'T IMAGINE HIM DOING IT. THERE WOULD BE NO REASON AND IT WOULD POTENTIALLY RUIN THE GAME. (See: my 1 of each role + 9 doctors example.)

to stop mass roleclaiming. And i'm sure he has surveyed it a bit, like he wouldn't allow that extreme, but 1 of one and 3 of another is perfectly reasonable

[JonathanCrazyJ]

my point is we gain no certainty. and the rule is there to stop mass roleclaiming, because mass roleclaiming sucks

[UTAlan]

Fine.

Who are you voting for JCJ?

[JonathanCrazyJ]

when is end of day? on mobile about to go to bed after work

[UTAlan]

Sub, no lynch is clearly a bad idea at this stage of the game. What are your plans for your vote? Fabian, gino, what about you?

This is way too few votes this close to the deadline. Mafia is only 2, but they'll still drive the lynch of we let them.

[UTAlan]

when is end of day? on mobile about to go to bed after work

About 90 minutes

[mathman101]

when is end of day? on mobile about to go to bed after work

Roughly 1.5 hrs I think.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

ugh it's 2:30 am

remind me why i now suspect coffee a bit less? i feel like I do but can't remember why