Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[iancudorinmarian]

Lynch dawn, only scum are salty

[dawn to dusk]

Now, since Lun flipped mafia, I am doubtful that coffee is mafia. I also don't think rob is mafia.

I'm probably inflating my posts now, but lots of smaller posts seem to be worth more than one larger post so I don't really care

I'd like to read your explanation of why you view Criminal!Luna's flip as clearing of Coffee (or how it casts doubt on the existing scum-reads of Coffee).

I am doubtful, that doesn't necessarily mean I think he is 100% town. That being said, my thought process was "if Coffee is mafia, Lun is volatile" but I hadn't imagined the possibility that Lun dies and flips mafia on that current day. My instincts at that time just said "Oh if Lun was mafia Coffee probably isn't then" as an excuse to say "Now that Lun was killed, there's no point in killing coffee"
Probably a cop-out
Oh well

[dawn to dusk]

Spoiler for Hidden:

Other than dd, because he seems to be a nifty exception

But like rob's only input on it was "you suck because you voted coffee" and nobody else said anything despite 20 god damned pages of posts

That is a gross mis-characterization.

A VERY large part of playing this game comes down to attempts to infer motivations, intent, and genuine-ness/false-ness of actions and posts of other players. I took exception not with just you voting coffee but I think you're very sensitive to being critiqued so you took it differently and went emotional-angle with it. That's OK though, carry on as you best think helps town... or your win-con... hopefully both.

I'm not sensitive to being critiqued. I am salty that I tried to prompt discussion and it was returned the way it was. I tried to give topics for discussion, possibilities on what could happen. The immediate posts following it were fine. But nobody actually responded to the thing I was most interested in talking about. That being the possibility that Hitman is intel. So of course I would be salty about that

Hmmm, ok fair I suppose. From my POV I'm very much unconcerned with whether Hitman is Intel when they've burned the 1U snipe already and we're lynching Criminals. I maybe did not make that clear with a direct response to you on that.

Hitman can still kill.
Unless I missed something, your opinion on Intel has changed quite a bit. Rather than "kill on sight" they are now "we don't reeeeally need to kill them despite the possibility that they can still kill others"

[iancudorinmarian]

Do I get notified if my ability was reflected/cancelled?

[rob77dp]

Do I get notified if my ability was reflected/cancelled?

This is not an in-thread question.

[godisnowonline]

Intel no longer pose a threat to town. at this point they want to prolong the game so they are going to make us spin our wheels.

[rob77dp]

Spoiler for Hidden:

Other than dd, because he seems to be a nifty exception

But like rob's only input on it was "you suck because you voted coffee" and nobody else said anything despite 20 god damned pages of posts

That is a gross mis-characterization.

A VERY large part of playing this game comes down to attempts to infer motivations, intent, and genuine-ness/false-ness of actions and posts of other players. I took exception not with just you voting coffee but I think you're very sensitive to being critiqued so you took it differently and went emotional-angle with it. That's OK though, carry on as you best think helps town... or your win-con... hopefully both.

I'm not sensitive to being critiqued. I am salty that I tried to prompt discussion and it was returned the way it was. I tried to give topics for discussion, possibilities on what could happen. The immediate posts following it were fine. But nobody actually responded to the thing I was most interested in talking about. That being the possibility that Hitman is intel. So of course I would be salty about that

Hmmm, ok fair I suppose. From my POV I'm very much unconcerned with whether Hitman is Intel when they've burned the 1U snipe already and we're lynching Criminals. I maybe did not make that clear with a direct response to you on that.

Hitman can still kill.
Unless I missed something, your opinion on Intel has changed quite a bit. Rather than "kill on sight" they are now "we don't reeeeally need to kill them despite the possibility that they can still kill others"

With each killing/death of a Criminal my stance toward Intel softens as Criminal deaths bring my win-con imminently closer... you are therefore correct that I have softened in my stance toward Intel. Hitman's remaining ability is delayed by two phases and for my part if math snipes another town-read or claimed town PR then I vote him into oblivion (with my single vote!).

[godisnowonline]

Math has repeatedly allied with town. The odds are firmly against him using his ability to kill another town.

[Linkcat]

Do I get notified if my ability was reflected/cancelled?

This is not an in-thread question.

There are very few questions not allowed in the thread. This is not one of them.

[rob77dp]

Do I get notified if my ability was reflected/cancelled?

This is not an in-thread question.

There are very few questions not allowed in the thread. This is not one of them.

Interesting - it sure looks like a game-setup question which I was under the impression of being something that gets asked to the game's mod and publicly answered/posted by the mod if deemed necessary??

[Coffeeditto]

Yes, you do; I've asked.

[Kuroaitou]

Do I get notified if my ability was reflected/cancelled?

Depending on what your ability is, yes and/or no. If the ability notifies its target of its use, then by definition, no matter where it's redirected OR reflected to, the new target will still be notified.