Elements Mafia 67 - by fabian771

[godisnowonline]

At this point i am concerned about the state of the game because of what i outlined previously. I guess kdz is still the better lynch target but if he flips town we pretty much know that its rob and link and uta

[UTAlan]

Then your vote being on kdz makes next-to-no sense to me.

By this logic, shouldn't you be pushing for a lynch on kdz since he counter-claimed Seer?

That said - here are my thoughts on the kdz claim.

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• Both Seers say Link was confirmed town on N1. This means he can't have been converted (yet). He's our only 100% confirmed town as of this point in the game.
• Either kdz or rob are a founding wolf, as they each claimed Seer. So whoever is lying is without a role (and would have claimed their original role if they had had one).
• Either (kdz is founding wolf AND Solaris is a founding wolf AND (Ryli is town OR Ryli was converted on N1)) OR (rob is founding wolf AND (Solaris is wolf OR Ryli is wolf)).

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This doesn't look good for Solaris. He's either 100% wolf with kdz or he's 50% wolf with rob. Also, chances are the honest Seer gets NK'd and tomorrow's lynch is setup for us. Yes?

[UTAlan]

At this point i am concerned about the state of the game because of what i outlined previously. I guess kdz is still the better lynch target but if he flips town we pretty much know that its rob and link and uta

If he flips town the game is over.

Also, you'd think I'd have bbcode figured out by now.

[UTAlan]

P.S.S.
    I forgot to move my vote.

Solaris (3) - Ryli, Linkcat, UTAlan
killsdazombies (2) - rob77dp, Solaris

[godisnowonline]

Solaris (4) - Ryli, Linkcat, UTAlan, Godisnowonline
killsdazombies (2) - rob77dp, Solaris

[godisnowonline]

I'm not really excited about the solaris lynch but if he flips mafia then we should hunt kdz. otherwise idk

[UTAlan]

I'm not really excited about the solaris lynch but if he flips mafia then we should hunt kdz. otherwise idk

If he flips mafia we see who gets NK'd. If rob or kdz get NK'd, we lynch the one that survived. If they both survive and someone else gets NK'd, we ask who they investigated and what the results were, then evaluate who to lynch between them (at this point I'd lean kdz, but I haven't dismissed the possibility of a mafia-rob because - rob).

[rob77dp]

UTA - I am voting my counterclaimant and wanting him lynched. Unable to post-quote at the moment but this is in response to your questioning why my logic that town!<role X> should nearly always vote and push hard on opposing!<role X> claimant.


Also yes, let this be clearer now than before: If today is a mislynch then town loses no matter whether BBWW has converted previously or not.

If I am not NK'd tonight then mafia have mailed it in because they KNOW I am Seer.

[UTAlan]

Link, as the ones I can be 100% certain of being town I think we need to first agree which among Sol or kdz is the lynch today. And the rest of town should pay CLOSE attention and follow suit... if they want to win.

I get the 99% 98% thing more or less, but we should be trying to hit BBWW just in case that conversion ability has not yet been used. Do you think of any way to try to parse between Sol or kdz whether one is more or less likely the BBWW if they are wolf?

My questioning wasn't based on where your current vote was (since it's obs on kdz) but based on the above quote. You were asking who to lynch between Sol and kdz (which is fine by itself) but also giving Sol a hard time about moving his vote off Ryli and onto kdz.

[Solaris]

wait wtf

[UTAlan]

wait wtf

Famous last words

[rob77dp]

I _really_ really think we need to lynch kdz today. I see absolutely no way that he is not wolf. I refuse to even consider the possibility of game throwing. He has claimed MY ROLE. Even though I put Sol at VERY likely to be a wolf, kdz is a sure thing.

If you guys lynch kdz then you HAVE to lynch Sol tomorrow when I die in the night.