Elements Mafia 67 - by fabian771

[UTAlan]

Alright, I guess assuming the extra day and laying low was good enough to take some time off to recuperate after work was a misplaced thought. Heres the deal. I'm the seer, Night 0 I ID'd gino, and Night 1 I ID'd Linkcat. Theyre both Town. Use that information as you will, this game is toxic trash anyway

Interesting. Gonna have to process this, run scenarios and such. I'll comment more on this soon.

I am glad to see being civil and social at the beginning of the game (which I try to do every game anyway) is a free way to get called out. Happens literally every game, like hell, all we can do is be shits to each other until they modkill request. This hyper aggressive mafiameta shit is as toxic as the noposts. At least two of the noposts this game has legitimate reasons for being unable to post for two-thirds of the game. Jesus Christ, I get that some of you play this elsewhere, and I get it gives you some skill in rooting things out, I understand and respect that, but you don't have to read so god damn deep into pre/early game banter? And you wonder why we haven't had a reasonable playercount in the last four games? This game used to be fun. Be better.

I'm sorry this game has upset you As I said to Ryli, I hope it doesn't prevent you from playing in future games. If you have any feedback on how we can improve things, please let us (well, Linkcat, anyway) know.

[Linkcat]

99% is higher than 98%.

Solaris (2) - Ryli, Linkcat
killsdazombies (3) - UTAlan, rob77dp, Solaris

[rob77dp]

99% is higher than 98%.

Solaris (2) - Ryli, Linkcat
killsdazombies (3) - UTAlan, rob77dp, Solaris

Is this votecount right?

Besides me knowing my own role and all that WIFOM, I think it is quite telling that he went from 0-to-60 mph complete with counterclaiming the Seer (me) but without voting that person (me). I mean, real Seer should ALWAYS be voting the player that is fake claiming the same role. I don't see it here.

gino, I don't think you should let your current stance on kdz-vs-rob waffle without a vote either way. I have very little to go on trying to discern your alignment so right now that three-post outburst where you suddenly retract your kdz vote that gave me wolfy-tingles about you is struggling against your uncountered Village Idiot claim.

[rob77dp]

Day 2
has ended.

ji412jo has been Nightkilled.
He was the Cupid: (1U) At the start of night 0, Cupid chooses 2 players. When one player dies, the other player dies from sorrow. May target self.

Easier to find timer to help EOD not sneak up on us.

[UTAlan]

Besides me knowing my own role and all that WIFOM, I think it is quite telling that he went from 0-to-60 mph complete with counterclaiming the Seer (me) but without voting that person (me). I mean, real Seer should ALWAYS be voting the player that is fake claiming the same role. I don't see it here.

If you're talking about kdz, my guess is that he didn't vote due to being upset about the game or whatever.

[rob77dp]

Per request:
Lovers were not notified of being these, and the Seer is unable to see the Lovers.

Not sure if it came into play or not but I can confirm that none of my checks (all two of them) mentioned anything about Lovers or not Lovers.

[Linkcat]

Kdz's period of inactivity is sufficient to explain why he would not have countered rob's claim, which was softed at the beginning of the day and slowly hardened over the following 12 pages. That said, I still find it highly improbable that rob is mafia, though less than I do Ryli which is why we are going to lynch Sol today.

[rob77dp]

99% is higher than 98%.

Solaris (2) - Ryli, Linkcat
killsdazombies (3) - UTAlan, rob77dp, Solaris

This is a very dangrous wagon formation, folks. Wolves have 2 and MAYBE 3 members right now which means wagons this small risks sniping at the dearth in likely LYLO situation.

Link, as the ones I can be 100% certain of being town I think we need to first agree which among Sol or kdz is the lynch today. And the rest of town should pay CLOSE attention and follow suit... if they want to win.

I get the 99% 98% thing more or less, but we should be trying to hit BBWW just in case that conversion ability has not yet been used. Do you think of any way to try to parse between Sol or kdz whether one is more or less likely the BBWW if they are wolf?

[Solaris]

not me, I'm vanilla town

[rob77dp]

not me, I'm vanilla town

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Then your vote being on kdz makes next-to-no sense to me. There can be ONLY ONE vanilla town/Civilian role this game so if you really are the Civ and believe it you'd be voting the counterclaimant and pushing that hard. Right? If not then how are we to be convinced that we should believe your claim?

[Solaris]

not me, I'm vanilla town

Idon'tBelieveYou-anchorman.gif

Then your vote being on kdz makes next-to-no sense to me. There can be ONLY ONE vanilla town/Civilian role this game so if you really are the Civ and believe it you'd be voting the counterclaimant and pushing that hard. Right? If not then how are we to be convinced that we should believe your claim?

you should believe it because I'm vanilla town

what is the point of voting on Ryli, which puts the lynch stack at very weird totals, and could allow the wolves to lynch a town?

[rob77dp]

Link...

What thoughts do you have on gino's posting burst last night backtracking off of his kdz vote and now not voting at all?