Elements Mafia 67 - by fabian771

[rob77dp]

Sol - I mean, you're pretty clear how important role priority is to you now but did you ask about it before?

no, had it been in the OP I would've remembered to ask for it, and likely played this whole game differently when faced with the abnormality of a Seer role reading -after- a conversion, making any strategery of the conversion useless

Hmm, OK, I might be able to follow where you're going -- what strategery was there that changes on N0 based on role priority? Are you thinking mafia had a list of who was what role on N0?

[Solaris]

Sol - I mean, you're pretty clear how important role priority is to you now but did you ask about it before?

no, had it been in the OP I would've remembered to ask for it, and likely played this whole game differently when faced with the abnormality of a Seer role reading -after- a conversion, making any strategery of the conversion useless

Hmm, OK, I might be able to follow where you're going -- what strategery was there that changes on N0 based on role priority? Are you thinking mafia had a list of who was what role on N0?

More thought might be put into a N0 conversion in terms of trying to hit the same target if Seer hits before conversion, or steering away from the target if Convert happens before Seer

(this is meta talk, if anyone scumreads more because of this you're being silly at this point)

[rob77dp]

Sol - I mean, you're pretty clear how important role priority is to you now but did you ask about it before?

no, had it been in the OP I would've remembered to ask for it, and likely played this whole game differently when faced with the abnormality of a Seer role reading -after- a conversion, making any strategery of the conversion useless

Hmm, OK, I might be able to follow where you're going -- what strategery was there that changes on N0 based on role priority? Are you thinking mafia had a list of who was what role on N0?

More thought might be put into a N0 conversion in terms of trying to hit the same target if Seer hits before conversion, or steering away from the target if Convert happens before Seer

(this is meta talk, if anyone scumreads more because of this you're being silly at this point)

I'm basically in full mechanics talk here, really. I honestly don't see how mafia in this setup would have done anything different based on knowing role priority with what little information was available N0.

[Solaris]

there's enough to make an informed decision

- We're converting tonight
- Seer will target tonight
- Seer might target XYZ because of night chatter
- Wolves target that person and Seer does as well, in current form, wasted Wolf ability because now the convert is known and role prio wasnt known for the wolves to counteract this

Now, imagine a scenario where wolves DID know what would happen if Seer and BBWW targetted the same person; wolves might play above scenario different

Did this affect the game? I don't have the information to know that.

Should I be in a situation where I have to ask if a host + rule oversight affected the game? Absolutely not.

[rob77dp]

Solaris (2) - rob77dp, Ryli
UTAlan (1) - Linkcat
Ryli (1) - Solaris
killsdazombies (1) - UTAlan

Last known votecount --^.

[Linkcat]

Solaris (2) - rob77dp, Ryli
Ryli (1) - Solaris
killsdazombies (2) - UTAlan, Linkcat

[rob77dp]

Solaris (1) - Ryli
Ryli (1) - Solaris
killsdazombies (3) - UTAlan, Linkcat, rob77dp

I suppose the least active and most lurky wolf in my short-history around EtG mafia is a good lynch too.

[UTAlan]

Per his request earlier.

Solaris (1) - Ryli
Ryli (1) - Solaris
killsdazombies (4) - UTAlan, godisnowonline, Linkcat, rob77dp

[UTAlan]

inb4 rob + link mafia team railroads us into a loss...

[Solaris]

Solaris (1) - Ryli
killsdazombies (5) - UTAlan, godisnowonline, Linkcat, rob77dp, Solaris
singlevotes get nothing done

[rob77dp]

If I wasn't feeling pretty sure that BBWW was used almost-surely N0 or maybe N1 (as I've been suspecting for a while now) then I might be tempted to hesitate on voting kdz like this with Sol so willing to pile onto him considering the high likelihood that they are wolf-bros. It feels like BBWW may not have been used yet and this is to protect the BBWW to be able to get that ability used tonight...

Occam's Razor points to kdz/Sol/?convert-N0/N1? team though...

[Solaris]

If I wasn't feeling pretty sure that BBWW was used almost-surely N0 or maybe N1 (as I've been suspecting for a while now) then I might be tempted to hesitate on voting kdz like this with Sol so willing to pile onto him considering the high likelihood that they are wolf-bros. It feels like BBWW may not have been used yet and this is to protect the BBWW to be able to get that ability used tonight...

Occam's Razor points to kdz/Sol/?convert-N0/N1? team though...

i've always been willing to lynch KDZ