Elements Mafia 66 - by killsdazombies

[rob77dp]

www3 -

Come on now, what are you waiting to hear from Link or aa? You've treated me differently all game than those two. Why? Are you reading either of them as Zailors????

[rob77dp]

UTA,
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Please please please review what I've posted this day phase. If we don't vote together the game is very nearly a lost cause from my POV.

[worldwideweb3]

www3 -

Come on now, what are you waiting to hear from Link or aa? You've treated me differently all game than those two. Why? Are you reading either of them as Zailors????

I said link or UT. You and anti are mafia imo, and i wanted to know who link/ut feel strong about. Right now, i'll go with UT as he's the most confirmed civ.


Linkcat (2) - rob77dp, antiaverage
rob77dp (1) - UTAlan, worldwideweb3
antiaverage (1) - Linkcat

[UTAlan]

Linkcat (2) - rob77dp, antiaverage
rob77dp (1) - worldwideweb3
antiaverage (2) - Linkcat, UTAlan

[rob77dp]

Hmmm, I think where www3 decides to move his vote is very telling in his next move.

Not moving it and leaving it a tie is bad Zailor play. If www3 is Zailor he should move his vote. If he is Mutineer he wants to play/act like Zailor so will still move his vote.

The decision now for Zailor!www3 is which players is most likely Mutineer and to vote that player.

The decision now for Mutineer!www3 would be to bus his partner Mutineer (vote a partner = bus) for cred _or_ to vote -with- his partner and risk outing his Mutineer crew.

Alternatively, one option would be, www3, to make a strong enough case on either UTA or myself to convince a majority to vote there. Anybody paying attention to mechanics and mechanically-cleared Zailor!UTA's vote switch should see this.

TL;DR-
UTA is mechanically cleared.
Zailor!UTA seems convinced there is no solid case on me.
I presented a yet-to-be-refuted case on that I believe 75/80% clears me largely based on mechanics.

[worldwideweb3]

Hmmm, I think where www3 decides to move his vote is very telling in his next move.

Not moving it and leaving it a tie is bad Zailor play. If www3 is Zailor he should move his vote. If he is Mutineer he wants to play/act like Zailor so will still move his vote.

The decision now for Zailor!www3 is which players is most likely Mutineer and to vote that player.

The decision now for Mutineer!www3 would be to bus his partner Mutineer (vote a partner = bus) for cred _or_ to vote -with- his partner and risk outing his Mutineer crew.

Alternatively, one option would be, www3, to make a strong enough case on either UTA or myself to convince a majority to vote there. Anybody paying attention to mechanics and mechanically-cleared Zailor!UTA's vote switch should see this.

TL;DR-
UTA is mechanically cleared.
Zailor!UTA seems convinced there is no solid case on me.
I presented a yet-to-be-refuted case on that I believe 75/80% clears me largely based on mechanics.

1. Dont assume UT is convinced. Stop making assumptions of what other people think. Last i know, his vote was on you before he moved.
2. There is no case that clears you. If anything, there are a lot of things that put you in the scummy area.

And again, with this post, you present yourself to be scummy. Surely, you would have waited on my move and then said what you thought zailor me/muti me would do. That tl;dr is also again awfully bad (except from #1, which is already accepted by everyone that theres no need to keep going on about it). So yh, that post confirms my suspicion on you, and will keep my vote there (unless we stay at a draw by the time and i have to move it then). Hopefully UT/link listen to me here...

[rob77dp]

Hmmm, I think where www3 decides to move his vote is very telling in his next move.

Not moving it and leaving it a tie is bad Zailor play. If www3 is Zailor he should move his vote. If he is Mutineer he wants to play/act like Zailor so will still move his vote.

The decision now for Zailor!www3 is which players is most likely Mutineer and to vote that player.

The decision now for Mutineer!www3 would be to bus his partner Mutineer (vote a partner = bus) for cred _or_ to vote -with- his partner and risk outing his Mutineer crew.

Alternatively, one option would be, www3, to make a strong enough case on either UTA or myself to convince a majority to vote there. Anybody paying attention to mechanics and mechanically-cleared Zailor!UTA's vote switch should see this.

TL;DR-
UTA is mechanically cleared.
Zailor!UTA seems convinced there is no solid case on me.
I presented a yet-to-be-refuted case on that I believe 75/80% clears me largely based on mechanics.

1. Dont assume UT is convinced. Stop making assumptions of what other people think. Last i know, his vote was on you before he moved.
2. There is no case that clears you. If anything, there are a lot of things that put you in the scummy area.

And again, with this post, you present yourself to be scummy. Surely, you would have waited on my move and then said what you thought zailor me/muti me would do. That tl;dr is also again awfully bad (except from #1, which is already accepted by everyone that theres no need to keep going on about it). So yh, that post confirms my suspicion on you, and will keep my vote there (unless we stay at a draw by the time and i have to move it then). Hopefully UT/link listen to me here...

Oh come now...

1. We _have_ to assume what UTA is thinking because he cannot post his own thoughts. Your point invalidated.

2. My case DEFINITELY clears me to me. Even without a case I am clear to me. My case on me is somewhat clearing to others. Averaged together is where I landed at. Your point invalidated.

No, if I wait you don't post or move until WAY too late in the day to get things done with EOD looming. This site is VERY slow in these games so your idea of waiting I also had but nixed because that is a scum move to wait until EOD on purpose. Your point invalidated.

You are now "sure" about me but then hedge that into oblivion.

Also, when you move your vote make sure to put explanation with it. Thanks.

[worldwideweb3]

lol. Why didnt you vote yourself when UT voted on you. Lol, pls rob, stop being silly here now.
Lol, doesnt matter if your "case" clears to you. That doesn't matter at all. And again, stop assuming if others think its clear or not. I dont even see a half decent case.

Checking deadline, we got about 6 hours. I'll vote in next couple if its still a draw (mainly waiting on what link has to say)

[rob77dp]

lol. Why didnt you vote yourself when UT voted on you. Lol, pls rob, stop being silly here now.
Lol, doesnt matter if your "case" clears to you. That doesn't matter at all. And again, stop assuming if others think its clear or not. I dont even see a half decent case.

Checking deadline, we got about 6 hours. I'll vote in next couple if its still a draw (mainly waiting on what link has to say)

Get out with "why didn't vote [my]self". I can think of ONLY one case I would ever vote myself. This is not it. Self-voting is trashy play.

The case is WHY WOULD Mutineer!rob pre-soft (that is, indicate in the thread) upcoming night-shooting a player and then do it and then come out and claim it? NEVER happens. If I did that then I would have played scum-game of the year. Is that what you're saying you believe? That I softed/hinted an upcoming shot, then took that exact shot, and then claimed it in the thread as Mutineer?

fry.gif

If you are Zailor then I really think you need to re-evaluate your read on the game right now.

Mutineer(s) are among aa/www3/Link so if YOU (www3) are Zailor from your POV seriously consider a world of aa/Link together or separate as the bad guys.

[rob77dp]

Of course I never meant any Italic there.

EBWOP - ignore italicisizing there.

[worldwideweb3]

lol. Why didnt you vote yourself when UT voted on you. Lol, pls rob, stop being silly here now.
Lol, doesnt matter if your "case" clears to you. That doesn't matter at all. And again, stop assuming if others think its clear or not. I dont even see a half decent case.

Checking deadline, we got about 6 hours. I'll vote in next couple if its still a draw (mainly waiting on what link has to say)

Get out with "why didn't vote [my]self". I can think of ONLY one case I would ever vote myself. This is not it. Self-voting is trashy play.

The case is WHY WOULD Mutineer!rob pre-soft (that is, indicate in the thread) upcoming night-shooting a player and then do it and then come out and claim it? NEVER happens. If I did that then I would have played scum-game of the year. Is that what you're saying you believe? That I softed/hinted an upcoming shot, then took that exact shot, and then claimed it in the thread as Mutineer?

fry.gif

If you are Zailor then I really think you need to re-evaluate your read on the game right now.

Mutineer(s) are among aa/www3/Link so if YOU (www3) are Zailor from your POV seriously consider a world of aa/Link together or separate as the bad guys.

You didnt claim you killed dawn. I said that you did.

[rob77dp]

lol. Why didnt you vote yourself when UT voted on you. Lol, pls rob, stop being silly here now.
Lol, doesnt matter if your "case" clears to you. That doesn't matter at all. And again, stop assuming if others think its clear or not. I dont even see a half decent case.

Checking deadline, we got about 6 hours. I'll vote in next couple if its still a draw (mainly waiting on what link has to say)

Get out with "why didn't vote [my]self". I can think of ONLY one case I would ever vote myself. This is not it. Self-voting is trashy play.

The case is WHY WOULD Mutineer!rob pre-soft (that is, indicate in the thread) upcoming night-shooting a player and then do it and then come out and claim it? NEVER happens. If I did that then I would have played scum-game of the year. Is that what you're saying you believe? That I softed/hinted an upcoming shot, then took that exact shot, and then claimed it in the thread as Mutineer?

fry.gif

If you are Zailor then I really think you need to re-evaluate your read on the game right now.

Mutineer(s) are among aa/www3/Link so if YOU (www3) are Zailor from your POV seriously consider a world of aa/Link together or separate as the bad guys.

You didnt claim you killed dawn. I said that you did.

I'll give you 30 minutes to re-read the game and my posts. I pre-hinted (softed) the kill on dawn before it ever happened.