Spoiler for d2d removing vote from Dema (putting Kuro into lynch-vote-total lead Day 1:
Going to briefly assess my interpretation of the current and prior situations before this post.
Everyone voting on Dema
I saw this at the time but hesitated to post anything, mainly since there was nothing I had to contribute to the conversation, and I knew that I had at least another day to decide on what to do
- Watermelon Plan
More civ than scum, as it encourages people who haven't read the opening post to do so, checking that ability, and seeing if there are any others that may be able to assist.
Whether these were the original intentions of his post or not is irrelevant to an extent.
- Dema's Defense
Very minor note, but I believe his defense is more comparable to that of a civ than a scum, mainly due to how aggressive it was. Do I like how he defended himself? No. Not in the slightest. But it is more comparable to a civilian gameplay than mafia's.
Counterlynch on Lunaris
I mostly agree with everything said here. Vote someone who will be inactive, because mafia sure as hell won't kill them, and I also agree that if Lunaris is going to be active, then laying off on this counterlynch is also warranted.
Counter-counterlynch on Kuro
First of all, the note that not all cop claims should be 100% trusted is completely warranted. Mainly because I nearly got lynched due to a claim like that.
Other than that, the statement that Kuro isn't beneficial as civ and dangerous as mafia is probably warranted. And at this stage, we are just trying to get to the lesser of two evils. I don't disagree with the vote on him, but I don't agree with it enough to put my own vote on him.
Vote Tally
fabian771 (1) - mathman101
Kuroaitou (6) - RavingRabbid, Linkcat, Ryli, Demagog, killsdazombies, andretimpa
Demagog (5) - JonathanCrazyJ, ddevans96, Lunaris, Solaris, rob77dp
Lunaris (2) - iancudorinmarian, Submachine
dawn to dusk (1) - fabian771
kirbylover314 (2) - danil, Kuroaitou
Ryli (2) - worldwideweb3, Espithel
Nobody that I can particularly think of voting on for now, and Voting Powers will apply quite a bit to whoever gets lynched anyway.
Spoiler for RR removing vote from Kuro to re-tie Kuro/Dema which was final vote tally Day:
fabian771 (1) - mathman101
Kuroaitou (5) - Linkcat, Ryli, Demagog, killsdazombies, andretimpa
Demagog (5) - JonathanCrazyJ, ddevans96, Lunaris, Solaris, rob77dp
Lunaris (2) - iancudorinmarian, Submachine
dawn to dusk (2) - fabian771, RavingRabbid
kirbylover314 (2) - danil, Kuroaitou
Ryli (2) - worldwideweb3, Espithel
This makes perfect sense from my side of things
I think it VERY unlikely that this is scum/scum on d2d/RR given the nature of Kuro flipping town and these being the last two vote-actions on Day 1 prior to Kuro dying. That is my way of summarizing this train of thought:
* d2d-vote-removal just might be what dawn portrays it to be... an unsure townie not voting at all Day 1 (while strange and I think un-helpful to town in the long run, but I don't know for sure...)
* then I suspect RR's vote-removal might have been the same thing.
However, in a world where d2d is mafia (possibly?) his vote removal would be that of putting Kuro into the vote-lead to ML town!Kuro COMBINED with a defense of what might be scum!Dema given that would be the player d2d "saves" by his vote switch (mafia VERY VERY rarely swap votes/trains if both trains are civvy). I think it HIGHLY HIGHLY unlikely that if this was a mafia!dawn move that RR would follow-up with a similar last minute train de-boarding if he is scum!RR.
In a world where RR is mafia (possibly?) his vote would not hop as it did because Kuro was at-the-time already the likely lynched-party (of course some of this has vote-changing roles/effects caveats) and moving off to create another tie simply draws attention a scum should not draw when they don't "have to move to get a ML".
TL;DR- Hmmm, having dragged myself through the above thought process (as flawed as it seems re-reading it now) I feel a little confident (but not certain obviously) in stating my opinion is that Dema and Kuro are probably both town and d2d/RR are probably not scum/scum teammates. Of course Kuro is town (flip!) but if Dema was mafia the mafia-team would have been VERY unlikely to let it sit like that and risk vote-mod-effects nabbing one of their players on Day 1.
