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Re: Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62991.msg1246638#msg1246638
« Reply #840 on: September 24, 2016, 06:27:33 pm »
I'm with Espi. That UTA guy is really suspicious.

UTA, here we're talking that you could be a scum. What's the point of posting this? You only try to reveal you're Mafia, or rather, play a trick on us while being allied with Mafia...?

Even though, the second option is very unlikely.
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Re: Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62991.msg1246639#msg1246639
« Reply #841 on: September 24, 2016, 06:29:21 pm »
He's pointing out the absurdity of why I feel he's mafia.

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Re: Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62991.msg1246640#msg1246640
« Reply #842 on: September 24, 2016, 06:30:16 pm »
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math - Not A Good Look here by staying silent then jumping in to vote and make a vanilla "don't look my way *poof*" statement. /// As I stated before, this is a self-pres outlook or viewpoint which good town should not usually be too worried about in favor of doing solve-y things if they take the time to post. /// Here is UTA (now on my ww section) shading math for a pretty good town-reason but NOT voting him for it which leans me harder on UTA _and_ on math here. True it could just be UTA shading math for a future framing (this is a decent chance actually). /// This post and this other one are town-lean from me except that they are coming across as trying to be solve-y but really just regurgitating what others have said in-thread/chat...

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I know we're all mostly aware of Dema's recent games where he is "sort of" like this, but I feel a different vibe from his "don't put too much stock in my scummy-ish town play and such - it is just my style". While it is true his town game is a bit irregular for my liking it does NOT mean there are no variations in how his style comes out between town!Dema and scum!Dema.
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Regarding how you see me, I am not really sure how this conclusion was determined. Yes I was very lazy at the start, honestly I actually was not planning on joining any mafias during war as I did not think I would have the time or energy to participate properly. The main reason I did actually join was for 2 main reasons; it was a sky mafia that seemed it would be very casual and a bit more of a relaxed style, and that there was one role that stood out to me for personal reasons as that was a nickname of mine from RL buddies due to a joke I made once.

Each person on your list you have thoroughly analyzed, and that is something I know you do during most mafias since the championship. unfortunately I am a bit confused on the number inside the brackets beside each set. Does this mean I am three times as likely to be leaning wolf/mafia? or does the (3x) mean something else that I am unaware of. clarification would be appreciated.

Also when I look at your list that you have made, I have to question some of your reads if you don't mind. How is it that those in the middle are not leaning more wolf-like. Usually it is said that little to no help/info leans wolfish (and that is where I ended up) but these 6 people are still in the middle. Is it because they are not posting enough, or that their posts are just to hard to read for you to see anything in them? Currently 6 people seems too many to have just blocked in the middle as neutral, personally I see Espi leaning slightly more townish, and JCJ slightly more wolfish, but those I can try to psot more when I have time  to make a full list.

Pertaining to this mafia game as a whole, I will try to spend more time when available to actually trying, and see if I can come up with my own list of reads. If you still beleive me leaning mafia, so be it each is entitled to thier opinions, but when I roll town you can go back through my posts and look for the path of breadcrumbs I dropped along the way.
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Re: Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62991.msg1246641#msg1246641
« Reply #843 on: September 24, 2016, 06:35:03 pm »
there was one role that stood out to me for personal reasons as that was a nickname of mine from RL buddies due to a joke I made once.

...was this The Pineapple Incident?

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Re: Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62991.msg1246642#msg1246642
« Reply #844 on: September 24, 2016, 06:35:39 pm »
espi is mafia

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Re: Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62991.msg1246643#msg1246643
« Reply #845 on: September 24, 2016, 06:36:42 pm »
Try it, m8

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Re: Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62991.msg1246645#msg1246645
« Reply #846 on: September 24, 2016, 06:38:23 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62991.msg1246646#msg1246646
« Reply #847 on: September 24, 2016, 06:38:36 pm »
that was all for bread purposes

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Re: Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62991.msg1246652#msg1246652
« Reply #848 on: September 24, 2016, 07:04:49 pm »
Warning - while you were typing 12 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Spoiler for Hidden:
Votes at the end of last round:

worldwideweb3 (6) - Solaris, JonathanCrazyJ, andretimpa, fabian771, Ryli, CleanOnion
Ryli (8) - worldwideweb3, Espithel, Linkcat, iancudorinmarian, killsdazombies, kirbylover314, mathman101, ddevans96
kirbylover314 (3) - Sera, rob77dp, UTAlan
ddevans96 (1) - dawn to dusk

Actual vote totals were 15, 5, 2 and 1, if ian is telling the truth.

We know that the total on Ryli was 15.

If UTAlan is SIC, rob77dp and andretimpa have their votes negated. This leaves kirby on 2 votes and www3 on 5 votes - this matches the 5 and the 2 which I think confirms UTA as SIC.

Therefore dd had 1 vote, so d2d has no net vote modifications.

kdz claims pomegranate: Your Voting Power is equal to the number of characters in your username, divided by 3 and rounded down.
killsdazombies = 14 characters, / 3 = 4.67, floor = 4 VP

Ryli (8) - worldwideweb3*1, Espithel*1, Linkcat*1, iancudorinmarian*1, killsdazombies*1, kirbylover314*1, mathman101*1, ddevans96*1

Ryli (11) - worldwideweb3*1, Espithel*1, Linkcat*1, iancudorinmarian*1, killsdazombies*4, kirbylover314*1, mathman101*1, ddevans96*1

4 more votes to find.

Roles that can manipulate votes:
  • Strawberry Ice Cream Cold Blood (Passive) You bleed when exposed to sunlight. Your blood constantly drips onto the two players directly below you on the signup list. Non-strawberries will have their votes negated until they are no longer being dripped on.
  • Grapefruit Urban Legend (Passive) Legend speaks of a grapefruit that rose to power. You gain 1 Voting Power permanently whenever a player listed lower on the signup list is lynched. You are notified each time this occurs.
  • Apple Teacher’s Pet (1U) Complain to the host about target player’s behavior. You can’t complain about yourself. The target’s vote is permanently negated, but only if you can find and quote a spelling or grammar mistake that he/she made in the thread and send it to the host. They will be notified. (Mistakes made in other languages are still mistakes. Quoting something that isn’t a mistake refunds this ability.)
  • Pomegranate Elegantly Eloquent (Passive) Your Voting Power is equal to the number of characters in your username, divided by 3 and rounded down.
  • Pear Unique Shape (EoR) Attempt to describe the shape of any fruit in 20 or less words when using this ability. If you succeed, your Voting Power is increased by 4 for the following day. (The fruit doesn’t have to be a role in this mafia. You can’t describe a fruit using any method that annoys the host.)
  • Blueberries Native Faith (Passive) Your Voting Power is 5 as long as everyone has faith in your civilian mannerisms. Therefore, this ability is disabled if someone votes on you at any point, even if that person’s vote would be negated by another effect.
  • Orange Citric Acid (Passive) Whenever you are targeted by an ability, the first living player below you on the signup list that has not yet been set on citric fire is set on citric fire. When you die, all mafia members on citric fire have their Voting Totals permanently increased by 4.
  • Lemon SourPls (1U) List as many subscriber-only Twitch emotes as you can and send them to the host. The following day, your Voting Power is equal to the number of Twitch emotes you sent.
  • Passionfruit Ava’s Flower Shop (Passive) If you click on the link in Sky’s signature, obtain an Epic card in Fippe’s card game, and then show the host a screenshot, your Voting Power increases by 4 permanently. The increase will take effect immediately.

Additionally, we don't know what Pure Strawberry can do but I feel like if it's voting manipulation, it hasn't been activated on this occasion.

I'm going to ignore Lemon because I feel that any sane person would research Twitch emotes and list enough to make all other votes negligible.

Let's see who can be Blueberries.

Spoiler for the most vote-heavy bit of D1:
mathman101 (1) - ddevans96
rob77dp (1) - Linkcat
fabian771 (1) - mathman101
ddevans96 (1) - Demagog
Kuroaitou (1) - RavingRabbid
Solaris (1) - Lunaris
Demagog (2) - dawn to dusk, JonathanCrazyJ
Ryli (1) - Submachine
Lunaris (1) - iancudorinmarian
RavingRabbid (1) - Ryli
dawn to dusk (1) - fabian771
Linkcat (1) - CleanOnion
danil (1) - Kuroaitou
kirbylover314 (1) - danil

Linkypoo, kirby, math and dd are not blueberries

www3 was voted on D2. I know I voted on Espithel at least once when he threatened that poor cat.

Ryli (11) - worldwideweb3*1, Espithel*1, Linkcat*1, iancudorinmarian*1, killsdazombies*4, kirbylover314*1, mathman101*1, ddevans96*1

This leaves ian and kdz, for whom I can't be bothered to check for votes. This post, however, assumes that ian is Peach and kdz is Pomegranate, so they can't be Blueberries. So we have no active blueberries in this list.

UTA is SIC.

Grapefruit might be complicated. Two players have been lynched so far: Kuroaitou and Ryli.

I nabbed the sign up list from the start of the game and removed irrelevant players.


If Linkcat is Grapefruit, he would get +2 VP. dd, math and kdz would get +1. I'm assuming kdz is pomegranate though, and dd is pineapple.

Apple: I'll assume that everyone has made a mistake at some point, but Apple would be likely to use the ability on someone very suspicious like UTA or sky. Additionally apple could be anyone, not just someone from the list. And it's about negation rather than addition. So I'll just pretend it doesn't exist.

Pomegranate: Math time

worldwideweb3: 13 -> 4.33 -> 4 (but is probably Lychee)
Espithel: 8 -> 2.66 -> 2
Linkcat: 7 -> 2.33 -> 2
kirbylover314: 13 -> 4.33 -> 4 (has claimed not pomegranate)
mathman101: 10 -> 3.33 -> 3
ddevans96: Pineapple

Pear: increases vote power by 4. Would effectively set the votes power to 5 in most scenarios. Could be anyone.

Blueberries: I didn't do this in the right order

Orange: the only dead Orange is danil. Increases vote total by 4 if they're mafia and if they're below danil. Ryli satisfies neither of these conditions.

Lemon: As said, ignoring this one (although the lemon could send only an unremarkable number of votes in order to remain hidden. But it would be more sensible to send an unusual number in order to be confirmed by a Peach.)

Passionfruit: See Pear

So here's what I came up with



If kirby really isn't pomegranate, then one of Esp/Link/Kirby/Math must be pear or passionfruit.

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Re: Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62991.msg1246654#msg1246654
« Reply #849 on: September 24, 2016, 07:08:42 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 63 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62991.msg1246691#msg1246691
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I think you can.
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